Sage Harvard citation issues

lrowsell
Hello

I have just switched my document from APA to Sage Harvard and have noticed a couple of errors.

For the in-text citations, in brackets sometimes it separates authors with "and" (which is correct), yet other times it will use "&" - seemingly randomly. e.g. (Cooper-Thomas and Anderson, 2002; Saks and Ashforth, 1997) vs. (Bauer & Erdogan, 2012).

Also, in the reference list, it is putting "et al." at the end of a list of authors when there is more than 3 authors e.g.

Bauer TN, Bodner T, Erdogan B, et al. (2007) Newcomer adjustment during organizational socialization: A meta-analytic review of antecedents, outcomes, and methods. Journal of Applied Psychology 92(3): 707–721.

Thanks very much for your help sorting this out.
  • adamsmith
    The et al. is correct:
    http://studysites.uk.sagepub.com/repository/binaries/pdf/SAGE_Harvard_reference_style.pdf
    Up to three authors may be listed. If more are provided, then list the first three authors and represent the rest by et al. Fewer authors followed by et al. is also acceptable.
    The ampersand wouldn't appear in Sage Harvard though, so it looks like those references aren't actually converting. Try a numeric style like IEEE or Vancouver and see if they change. If not, they're either not or no longer active Zotero citations, or you manually edited them and told Zotero to stop updating them.
  • lrowsell
    Hello

    Thanks for your answer. I have been in touch with Human Relations, and they say "With regards to the references list, we prefer all author names to be included".

    Is there any way to get an additional style added, an amendment to Sage Harvard Style with this particular nuance that Human Relations want? Otherwise I will have to write out the author names manually when there is more than three which will take a lot of time.

    Thanks very much for your help,

    Lisa
  • adamsmith
    sigh. I don't understand why journals feel the need to redefine standards. I don't know when I'll get to this, but it's a pretty quick fix on your end:
    Just delete
    et-al-min="4" et-al-use-first="3"
    general instructions here:
    https://www.zotero.org/support/dev/citation_styles/style_editing_step-by-step
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