Upgrade StorageReordering references
This is related to discussion 4891, part of which I solved by forking the Chicago style.
Chicago Manual of Style (full note with bibliography) forked to use short form rather than ibids, but problem occurs with the released form of the format.
5 Paul Bradshaw, The Search for the Origins of Christian Worship, 2nd edition (New York: Oxford University Press, 2002), 125.
which is the correct form.
Now go back in the document and add a footnote with citation to the same work and you will get:
3 Bradshaw, Search, 102.
Which would be the correct form if it were after the initial citation.
Now what would be nice, but probably not worth the performance or maintenance hit would be for the second to be changed automagically when a prior location gets created. But what is absolutely required is to be able to get the full citation on footnote (3) and the short form on footnote (5). I've tried saving the document and reloading it, changing the document style, using refresh, changing footnote to endnote, and even copying the document and pasting into a new empty document. All to no avail. My guess is that the document walk is being done based on the UUID in the object embed rather than a traversal of the document itself.
In document A create a footnote with reference:
25 Paul Bradshaw, The Search for the Origins of Christian Worship, 2nd edition (New York: Oxford University Press, 2002), 100.
In document B create a footnote with references:
2 Paul Bradshaw, The Search for the Origins of Christian Worship, 2nd edition (New York: Oxford University Press, 2002), 202.
4 Bradshaw, Search, 204.
What you get in the master document is
25 Paul Bradshaw, The Search for the Origins of Christian Worship, 2nd edition (New York: Oxford University Press, 2002), 100.
29 Paul Bradshaw, The Search for the Origins of Christian Worship, 2nd edition (New York: Oxford University Press, 2002), 202.
31 Bradshaw, Search, 204.
(29) should be Bradshaw, Search, 202.
And for what it's worth, it appears that if Document B has an ordering Problem 1, the master document will have the ordering problem in it.
And, of course, these problems are just made more obvious if one is using an "ibid" format.
If this is fixed in the 1.5, I'd be happy to switch over, even with the "warnings." On the other hand, if somebody wants to point me to internal documentation, it might well be faster for me to debug and fix the code than hand-fix hundreds of citations.
Thanks in advance
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I'm currently using OO 2.4, Zotero 1.09, Firefox 3.0 on Ubuntu 8.10/32bit intelChicago Manual of Style (full note with bibliography) forked to use short form rather than ibids, but problem occurs with the released form of the format.
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I'm working on my dissertation and using master documents to control the working size of both reference sets and file size (having been around MS Word for too long, I have a fear of large word processing files!). I've run into two problems which are causing me a significant amount of heartburn; they are, at the core, probably the same issue.Problem 1: Short form of footnotes appears to be related to time of creation of footnote rather than position in document.
Case:
Have a block of text. Add a footnote with citation and you will get a citation that looks like:5 Paul Bradshaw, The Search for the Origins of Christian Worship, 2nd edition (New York: Oxford University Press, 2002), 125.
which is the correct form.
Now go back in the document and add a footnote with citation to the same work and you will get:
3 Bradshaw, Search, 102.
Which would be the correct form if it were after the initial citation.
Now what would be nice, but probably not worth the performance or maintenance hit would be for the second to be changed automagically when a prior location gets created. But what is absolutely required is to be able to get the full citation on footnote (3) and the short form on footnote (5). I've tried saving the document and reloading it, changing the document style, using refresh, changing footnote to endnote, and even copying the document and pasting into a new empty document. All to no avail. My guess is that the document walk is being done based on the UUID in the object embed rather than a traversal of the document itself.
Problem 2: Short and long form in Master document.
I think this is the same problem as Problem 1.Case:
Create two slave documents A and B. Create an enclosing master document which consists of [text] A [text] B [text].In document A create a footnote with reference:
25 Paul Bradshaw, The Search for the Origins of Christian Worship, 2nd edition (New York: Oxford University Press, 2002), 100.
In document B create a footnote with references:
2 Paul Bradshaw, The Search for the Origins of Christian Worship, 2nd edition (New York: Oxford University Press, 2002), 202.
4 Bradshaw, Search, 204.
What you get in the master document is
25 Paul Bradshaw, The Search for the Origins of Christian Worship, 2nd edition (New York: Oxford University Press, 2002), 100.
29 Paul Bradshaw, The Search for the Origins of Christian Worship, 2nd edition (New York: Oxford University Press, 2002), 202.
31 Bradshaw, Search, 204.
(29) should be Bradshaw, Search, 202.
And for what it's worth, it appears that if Document B has an ordering Problem 1, the master document will have the ordering problem in it.
And, of course, these problems are just made more obvious if one is using an "ibid" format.
If this is fixed in the 1.5, I'd be happy to switch over, even with the "warnings." On the other hand, if somebody wants to point me to internal documentation, it might well be faster for me to debug and fix the code than hand-fix hundreds of citations.
Thanks in advance
This does appear to be fixed in 1.5. Thanks!