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Is there any impediment (or, is it possible) to drag collections and sub-collections among collections of groups libraries?
Thank you.
Is there any impediment (or, is it possible) to drag collections and sub-collections among collections of groups libraries?
Thank you.
Collections can not be copied within the same group.
However, I need to create the same set of sub-collections in various collections of the same group. In fact, I need to create the same set of sub-collections in several collections of various groups.
As a solution, I created another group on which I created that set of subcollections and then started to drag them to the various collections of the targed group.
Problem: after the first time you drag a collection of a group to a collection of the target group, the collection that was dragged can not again be dragged to any other collection of the target group, or even to the target group.
I am the owner of all groups and did all this in the Zotero client.
The behavior you're seeing is expected and I'm not really certain if it should change (dragging the same collection to a group library should provide some better feedback to the user, but I don't think it should create another copy... or maybe it should). Feel free to expand on your use case so we can better understand if this can be more broadly applicable.
It is a project for the management, organization and access to corporate information through Zotero references that will describe and link to this corporate information.
This is an expanded use of Zotero, but I am almost certain that Zotero has the potential to support this application.
In simplified terms, using a group of library for a large corporate area, I will create several collections, one for each sub-area of the company. Each of these collections will have a set of sub-collections. Each subcollection has a name that represents the types of references that it will contain. Each of these reference will describe and point to a file, with corporate information of interest, located in the IT network of the company or to a location on the Web.
Therefore, this set of subcollections is repeated for each corporate sub-area.
Thus, to facilitate the work to repeatedly create the same set of subcollections, I tried the solution described above, creating a pattern group with that standard set of subcollections to drag them to the different collections of the original group.
However the problem is that after the first time you drag a collection of a group to a collection of another group, the collection that was dragged can not again be dragged to any other collection of the target group, or even to the target group.
This project expands the power of Zotero, and I believe that the possibility of copying several times just empty subcollections to collections of another group, may be helpful.
Obviously, this possibility is not critical to my project, but it would be of great help.
Another question.
This is a corporate project that expands the use of Zotero.
As stated in the documentation of Zotero, there is no limit to the number of members of a group.
However, if this number is very large, and the total of the group Administrators also is large, is there the possibility of problems with synchronization, between Web base and local bases,arising from a large amount of concurrent updates?
Thank you.
The collections will be pre-defined and tend to be stable.
As for the tags of the references, they tend to be little changed, and each set of references belonging to a collection will be changed by a specific administrator.
What does this mean "if the same tag is changed on different items by different users that causes problems"?
That behavior will likely change in the future, but not sure when.
Is it the update conflict message in more than one place, showing the panels with each update to the user to choose which he/she want to keep?
As I said, I am a fan of the Zotero.
So I would like, on another day, explain better what is this application, which is in the field of enterprise information management, because I believe that it expands the use Zotero possibilities while remaining within their original functions.
However, I do not want to take the time of yours unnecessarily. So I want to know if you are interested in this information.
Given a reference (item), can I find out which member of a group who registered this reference (item) in the group's library?
If possible, how?
Thank U.
Given a reference (item) from a group of library, can its owner or administrator find out which member of this group who registered this reference (item) in the group's library?
If possible, how?
Thank U.
However, could this attribute be added to the local Zotero?
In some enterprise applications this can be useful.
Thank you very much!
This needs to change. I see no point in limiting this functionality. In my case, I imported a data pull (PDFs of articles downloaded) as the articles were downloaded. I'd like to keep that set in-tact, but duplicate it in order to use some of Zotero's functions, such as renaming from parent metadata, on a clean set, which I would rename to "data pull with renamed." But, now I'm stuck and can't drag the unnamed collection to the group or the renamed collection into my personal library.
Why limit this functionality? I assumed if it was possible once that it would be possible twice. Now I've wasted my time. Help?!
In your particular situation (I don't quite understand why it involves a group, but so be it), you could e.g. use export --> import to create actual duplicates. That would seems to work quite nicely for what you want.
I would suggest that involuntary duplicates should always be avoided and voluntary duplicates be always allowed. That way, the user--not the program--decides when something is duplicated. Is there a way to choose what function "dragging" an item to a folder performs - to choose to "move" an item instead of "copying" when you drag it?
For instance, dragging a PDF into another folder automatically creates a duplicate of it instead of moving it, which means if you really wanted to move it you have to remove the other one (major problem if you're dealing with a lot of files, which people using a PDF manager would be). So you can't actually organize your files as your would in any other file structure on a computer - which makes the functionality tough for new users, like me, to adopt.
In answer to the question about why my situation would involve a group: I have my own library and it contains the folder for this project. I also have a group for the project so that my project advisors can access the PDFs that I want to share with them. I wanted to put the same collections and subcollections in both places in two ways: One copy archived "as is" and the other "adjusted" using notes, rename from metadata, etc.
Some things in both my personal library folder and in the group for the advisors will need to be duplicated. This is currently impossible, so far as I understand. It would be lovely if it was as easy as a drag and drop - so I can keep my files in my library, but share a copy of them with my group.
Can you explain the export--> import you suggest for creating actual duplicates? I exported an RDF and can't get it to import.
But either way. This isn't going to change in any way super quickly, so let's just solve your problem:
Starting from the group: export the collection as Zotero RDF, then import, select the exported file and it will appear as a new collection in My Library.
Starting from My Library involves one more step (since it's currently not possible to import files easily into groups, which is not intentional but simply not fully implemented):
1. Export the collection from my library
2. Import it (which will place it in My Library
3. Move the imported collection over to the group. You can choose to delete it in My Library or leave it there as you prefer.
Or what is the poblem when you say "can't get it to import"?
But you can toggle that behavior by holding the shift (Win/Linux) or Cmd (Mac) key while dragging.