Problem with double family names

mlcrsoares

Hello there,

I am using the Portuguese CSL style, which I've been editing to my convenience, introducing lots of workarounds in order to get proper rendering.
However, I am now debating with an issue I can't figure out:

When you have a double family name where the first has three or less letters, it is automatically assumed as a given name (as many of you might know, Spanish double family names require special treatment since the one that counts is the middle name – the father’s –, therefore it has to be cited before the last).

I get this - VALDIVIESO, María Isabel del VAL
Where I should get - VAL VALDIVIESO, María Isabel del

I’m unable to find any sort of formatting within the names macro that might set this behavior. I have tested APA and Chicago, and it doesn’t happen, so I suppose it is in fact a style issue, not a Zotero hard code thing.
Could someone please help?

Thanks!

adamsmith

it's the dropping-particle settings in the style element. It's arguably falsely triggered here (because of the three letters) since this isn't a dropping particle, but I think it should still be OK to just adjust that in your style.

mlcrsoares

Thanks a lot for the prompt response. I am new to Zotero and CS styles... I tried to adjust the dropping-particle settings but couldn't find it in the visual editor.

"The handling of the non-dropping-particle can be customized with the demote-non-dropping-particle option"

Ok. But where is it?

I really don't think there is an automation here that might work well with all possibilities. If you adjust for a name, you will likely run into trouble later, with another.

I believe it would be a lot better if I could set the style to simply assume as to be cited the names inserted in the 'family name' field - other family names or particles, I put them in the 'given name' field. What I would like is that this would just stay that way.
Meanwhile, I read somewhere that straight double-quote marks ("_") may be used to render the names literally, overriding any dropping-particle behavior settings. This could be an option here, even if temporary.

adamsmith

if you click on "global formatting options" in the visual editor you get the option. Set it to never, that will, in fact, always leave the lastname field alone.

mlcrsoares

Ah, Got it! (Browsed the options a couple of times but somehow missed it.)
Thanks a lot.