Id. & immediate succession

Hi again,

I'm still working on my CSL for the Journal of Belgian History...
A new difficulty occured:

When an author is cited in immediate succession with different titles/works, his/her name will be replaced at the second mention by Id.

Example: Henri Bernard, Guerre totale et guerre révolutionnaire, Bruxelles/Paris, 1975, p. 3; Id., Armée secrète 1940-1944, Annexe III.

These immediate successions may happen inside one footnote (see example above) or in subsequent footnotes...

If it's easy to implement the subsequent-author-substitute in the bibliography it seems to me a lot more complicated when i'm in the citation part.

I'm already using the following for immediate successions of citations of the same work, which must appear as Idem, p.4

<if position="ibid-with-locator">
<group delimiter=", ">
<text value="idem" text-case="capitalize-first" font-style="italic"/>
<text variable="locator" prefix="p. "/>
</group>
</if>
<else-if position="ibid">
<text value="idem" text-case="capitalize-first" font-style="italic"/>
</else-if>


When the citations are not in immediate succession i'm using the short title (thanks again Rintze!)

Is there actually a solution for this problem?
  • CSL can't currently substitute author names with "id."; it would require an extension to the language itself.

    How would this work with multiple authors? For example:

    A. Ango, B. Blowfish and C. Crypto, "Book I" (1920); A. Ango, D. Darkmatter, "Book II" (1921); D. Darkmatter, E. Enigma, "Book III" (1922); E. Enigma, "Book IV" (1923).

    Would we (a) not use "id." in any of these; (b) use "id." for the "A. Ango" of "Book II"; (c) use "id." for the "D. Darkmatter" of "Book III"; or (d) use "id." for the "E. Enigma" of "Book IV"?

    If there are clear answers, and if this convention is common in a significant publishing sector, then it can happen, although it may take a year or three for us to reach it.
  • At the moment you have to use a workaround for that: if you enter the footnote, suppress author and write the 'id' manually, see https://www.zotero.org/support/kb/idem
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