Different use of cs:terms for Bibliography and Citation?

cebra

Dear all,

I've defined a a different use of locale with cs:terms and need to use the term "and" in two different ways:

citation: and = /
bibliography: and = ,

I've checked the style reference but due to terms is centrally defined I don't find a way how to solve the issue above.

Any ideas?

Thanks all!

adamsmith

could you give us an example of how this is supposed to look?
Comma and slash would be very odd for an "and" term. My guess would be that you'd actually want delimiters, which can be set for each instance of cs:name individually.
(But if you actually want different "and" terms and one of them isn't the ampersand &, then the answer is this can't be done.)

cebra

hi adam,

example for citation: Borges (1999), S. 244–252.; McInnis/Nelson (2011)

In citation it is required to separate several authors by "/".

example for bibliography: McInnis, Maurie Dee/Nelson, Louis P. (2011): Shaping the body politic: Art and political formation in early america, Verlag: Charlottesville, VA.

In Bibliograph it is required to separate several authors by ",". (see between Dee/Nelson).

The whole requirements of my university is odd, so don't think about the sense, it is required.

What about your suggestions to do it with a delimiter, how does this work?

zuphilip

Well, different authors are seperator by a delimiter. The "and" is just used between the second-last and last author, e.g.

Bruce A. Tate, Ian Dees, Frederic Daoud and Jack Moffitt (2014): Seven More Languages in Seven Weeks: Languages That Are Shaping the Future

Here the comma is the delimiter and the "and" is used between the second-last to last author. You may look at some example style how they deal with it. I have seen "/" as delimiter in German styles.

cebra

Ok, understood. But can you explain to me why the delimiter will not be considered?

<macro name="author-cit">
<names variable="author">
<name form="short" font-weight="normal" and="text" delimiter-precedes-last="never" delimiter="/" name-as-sort-order="all"/>
<label form="short" text-case="lowercase" strip-periods="true"/>
<substitute>
<names variable="editor"/>
<names variable="translator"/>
</substitute>
</names>
</macro>

There is still the word "and" between the first and second author:

McInnis und Nelson (2011)

Is there something I need to prepare prior the macro?

adamsmith

because you still have and="text" in there. Remove that.

adamsmith

You may also want to set delimiter-precedes-last="always" though I'm not sure if it makes a difference without and.

cebra

Got it…

and="text" was the issue

thanks for the hint.