problem with the biblatex/bibtex export

pprw

I just imported from a bibtex reference to zotero. Here is the reference style:

@Inproceedings{key,
Title = {title},
Author = {author name},
Booktitle = {booktitle},
Year = {2007},
Organization = {organization},
Pages = {233--262}
}

After the importation, I tried to export this reference to bibtex/biblatex.

With bibtex export:

@inproceedings{key,
title = {title},
booktitle = {booktitle},
author = {author name},
year = {2007},
pages = {233–262}
}

With biblatex export:

@inproceedings{clef,
title = {title},
pages = {233–262},
booktitle = {booktitle},
booktitle = {booktitle},
author = {author name},
year = {2007}
}

In both bibtex and biblatex export, we loose the field "organization". It sounds like a bugs.

Moreover, biblatex export duplicate the filed "booktitle". If you copy/paste the (first) bibtex reference, you should be able to reproduce the problem.

adamsmith

but what is organization here? I don't see what Zotero field that could import into. The duplicate booktitle in biblatex we'll fix.

noksagt

In BibLaTeX, organization is essentially the publisher. There is no formal definition of it in BibTeX.

adamsmith

but no reason we couldn't support it as a fallback for publisher on bibtex import then?

noksagt

It isn't a terrible choice. But there are @inproceedings and @proceedings that include BOTH an organization and a publisher. I haven't checked what the popular styles do with that info, though.

pprw

Sorry to answer so late.

@adamsmith "but what is organization here? I don't see what Zotero field that could import into."

I don't know exactly but I found some reference on the Internet with both a publisher and *organization* field. An institution could want to have its name printed even if this book have already scientific editors and a publisher. All three should be printed (I had the feeling that zotero shouldn't delete this information when exporting...)

But I have no clue about how to convert it.

P-S : "The duplicate booktitle in biblatex we'll fix." > Thanks

adamsmith

duplicate booktitle was fixed a while ago.
I just pushed a change to the bibtex translator that uses organization or institution as a fallback for publisher.

zhenyu.yang

I encountered a similar issue by exporting an "inproceedings" entry to bibtex format. The entry was once imported from internet directly using the navigator plug-in. It contains only a "publisher" field while the latex template of wiley online library strictly requires an "organization" field instead of "publisher". Maybe keep both outputs ?
I'm using zotero 6.0.30.

adamsmith

Yeah, you can't expect roundtrip import/export to be loss-less: bibtex is too poorly standardized for that and I don't think we'll want to export duplicated fields (i.e. both publisher and organization). The erro
If you do use the BBT add-on, you can specify specific export parameters using tex.organization (etc.) in the Extra field, so that might help?