bugs when citing multiple works by the same author

bgeer

Using Zotero 1.0.3 with the OpenOffice plugin and Chicago Manual of Style author-date format, I've encountered several bugs when citing multiple works by the same author.

Given the following three items (two books and a book chapter):

Bourdieu, Pierre. 1984. Distinction: A Social Critique of the Judgement of Taste. Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press.

Bourdieu, Pierre. 1987. Choses dites. Paris: Les Éditions de Minuit.

Bourdieu, Pierre. 1987. Legitimation and Structured Interests in Weber's Sociology of Religion. In Max Weber, Rationality and Modernity, Ed. Scott Lash and Sam Whimster, 119-136, London: Allen & Unwin.

Bug 1:

I create a citation with two sources, citing page 100 in "Distinction", and page 200 in "Choses dites". Result:

(Bourdieu 1984, 1987, 100)⁠

That can’t be right. The page number for "Choses dites" is missing, and you can’t tell which work page 100 is referring to. I think it should be:

(Bourdieu 1984, 100; 1987, 200)

Bug 2:

If I cite both "Choses dites" and "Legitimation and Structured Interests" in the same document, I get:

(Bourdieu 1987)⁠

(Bourdieu 1987)⁠

It should clearly be:

(Bourdieu 1987a)

(Bourdieu 1987b)

Bug 3:

Having cited all three works, I generate the bibliography, and I get:

Bourdieu, Pierre. 1987. Choses dites. Paris: Les Éditions de Minuit.

Bourdieu, Pierre. 1984. Distinction: A Social Critique of the Judgement of Taste. Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press.

Bourdieu, Pierre. 1987. Legitimation and Structured Interests in Weber's Sociology of Religion. In Max Weber, Rationality and Modernity, Ed. Scott Lash and Sam Whimster, 119-136, London: Allen & Unwin.

There are two problems here. First, the works should be arranged in chronological order. Second, the author’s name should be replaced by a long dash after the first occurrence.

bgeer

All three bugs also occur in Harvard format.

erazlogo

All these bugs are fixed on the dev branch and in the version of the Chicago Author-Date style available from the Dev Styles section at http://www.zotero.org/styles/ The public style will be automatically updated when 1.0.4 comes out (should be soon).

Not sure about the Harvard format, but bugs should be fixed there also.

bgeer

Great, thanks, I'll be looking forward to 1.0.4.

bgeer

I've just tested Zotero 1.0.4 (with Firefox 3 Beta 5), and all three bugs are still there.

dstillman

You shouldn't need to, but try clicking Reset Translators and Styles in the Advanced pane of the Zotero prefs. I just tested these with 1.0.4/Chicago Author-Date, and all three bugs appear to be fixed. Harvard still displays two "(Bourdieu 1987)" citations without indicating which is which, but I don't know what the expected behavior is there.

bgeer

Yes! That fixed it! Thank you very very much!

ByteRyder

I've encountered an additional problem with American Psychological Association style using OpenOffice.org and Zotero 1.0.4 (which, btw, is considerably faster than 1.0.3 - thanks!). I have 3 references by the same author and want to cite them in the text as follows:

Fuster (1987, 1998, 2002) suggested that . . .

But Insert Citation doesn't allow "multiple sources" and "suppress author" to be selected together. My workaround has been to use "view editor" and manually remove the author. Still, this is a "legal" way to cite references in APA style and should be supported.

Tjowens

Ticket created.

seantmitch

The "American Sociological Association" style has the same problems that the first poster identified.

And, yeah, I agree with ByteRider: 1.04 with Openoffice is way faster than the older versions (just in time, I might add: I'm doing the final clean up of my on my dissertation's long bibliography and I'm breezing through it with the current version). Thanks!