ORCID + Zotero + PubMed

DWL-SDCA

Today, the U.S. National Library of Medicine announced the new PubMed XML format for 2013. This includes ORCID numbers. (I think this is wonderful.) I have concerns about the success of the ORCID project if it doesn't get a robust initial response.

Given that the next major update to Zotero may arrive before the end of this year, are there plans to incorporate author ORCID labels?

What of ORCID and CSL?

Related forum threads:

http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/16547
http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/19570
http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/22722
http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/12538

NLM announcement:
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/bsd/licensee/announce/2012.html#2012CHANGES

Rintze

What of ORCID and CSL?

CSL processors could use ORCIDs to help with author disambiguation, although the benefits will be limited unless a significant fraction of the authors have been annotated with one.

As for adding a way to render ORCIDs with CSL styles, I'd like to wait until styles pop up that actually require inclusion of ORCIDs.

DWL-SDCA

I agree with need to wait for including ORCIDs with styles until it is established how publishers will want them formatted in references.

That is an important but different issue from Zotero importing ORCIDs from PubMed or other sources. It looks as though the PubMed translator may need some other changes because of the 2013 changes. I was wondering if Zotero will be importing the newly available ORCIDs and how they might be used in Zotero to connect those authors' to their papers that are already in the Zotero library.

DWL-SDCA

Is there any information to share concerning ORCID IDs and Zotero. I am (in my own project) beginning to find ORCID identifiers quite useful in author name disambiguation as is the case with VIAF IDs. ORCID IDs are particularly useful with transliterated names, authors with very common names with publications using initials, etc. Although ORCID systems are still developmentally in adolescence and the system needs more authors to participate, I believe the time has come for CSL to add an author/ORCID connection. I just merged 6 author names into one using ORCID. There were slightly different spellings of the family name and given names, In some cases the given names were separated with a space or not.

adamsmith

I agree that ORCID has come a long way and I think Zotero should think about ORCIDs (in the general context of a much needed better way to manage authors), though I'm not aware of any movements on this (quite understandably, given the imminent 5.0 release).

Personally I'd like to see reference managers move first here before we tackle this on the CSL side. The mere existence of some structure/variable is useless without reference manager buy-in (more so for something like ORCID that needs to be related to other data than for something like PMID that's just an added field/variable), and I'd like to see what reference managers do here before we decide how CSL can/should take advantage of ORCIDS. (I've never talked to anyone else CSL-related about this, though, so this is really strictly my personal opinion).

Rintze

Personally I'd like to see reference managers move first here before we tackle this on the CSL side.

Agree on this, by the way. Once reference managers start storing ORCIDs, we can start feeding them to the CSL processors for name disambiguation (and make them part of CSL JSON), and, if there is a demand for it, change the CSL style schema to make it possible to print the ORCIDs in references as well. But it would be nice to first see reference managers figure out how to add it to their data model and figure out the UI for showing/editing ORCIDs.

DWL-SDCA

In a multidisciplinary field it is common to have several authors with identical names. The disambiguation problem in my SafetyLit database is monumental. Then there is the problem of authors who publish with initials only, name variants, etc. How is an author to comply with CMoS ¶14.72 or APA ¶6.27 without help from a consistent identifier and the inclusion of such things in a reference manager?

With my SafetyLit database I have both an ORCID table and a VIAF table associated with authors in the author table. This allows name disambiguation upon import from PubMed xml and a few publisher systems.