PDF Metadata Collection is not good enough

ZerothOrder

I have about 20 PDF journal articles whose metadata can be collected by Mendeley but not Zotero, is there any plans on improving the metadata?

For example, this one:
escholarship.org/uc/item/6vp6b5p8.pdf

Mendeley reads the authors and title just fine but Zotero can't.

If it is necessary, i can give some other examples.

adamsmith

while, yes, there are plans to improve metadata detection, newer articles like that one usually work and this does for me (note that Zotero also recognizes the data on the page, which is generally preferred). Also, improvements will mainly be on the quality of the data, much less on the hit rate.

What exactly happens when you try to retrieve metadata?
Provide a debug ID for an attempt to retrieve metadata for that pdf:
http://www.zotero.org/support/debug_output

ZerothOrder

Thank you for the quick answer.
Instead of entering the link, i add the pdf file that I have downloaded from the website to zotero and try to retrieve metadata.

Here is the debug ID : D533125095

adamsmith

Simon will have to look at the debug, but in the meantime - what message exactly are you getting?

Simon

I don't see anything wrong with the debug output, and the first Google Scholar search it executes should work. My guess is that you're locked out of Google Scholar due to their rate limiting.

adamsmith

(improving - though likely not completely fixing - this is also something generally on the list of things planned for improvement.)

ZerothOrder

Simon, I checked it, scholar does not ask for unlocking before and after I get "No matching references found." error.

I dunno why it works for you but not for me.

adamsmith

Try this link:
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q="N. Le Thomas, R. Houdré, D. O’Brien, and T. F. Krauss, “Exploring light propagating in photonic crystals" "optics,” J. Opt. Soc. Am. B 24(12), 2964–2971" &hl=en&lr=&btnG=Search

do you get a search result? Can you import it to Zotero using the URL bar icon?

ZerothOrder

It works if i do it that way. Is it not possible to do if i load from the downloaded pdf ? It should be able to do it since the pdf can be found from google search result.

adamsmith

as Simon and I say - this works from the PDF for us. I was asking you to try that link for troubleshooting - it's the google scholar search that Zotero gets from the pdf and then does internally.
I don't know what else could be failing - have you tried the pdf again?

ZerothOrder

This time it did work. Could it be due to Google Scholar lock?
If so, why didn't it even ask me about the lock ?
I'm confused.

Still thank you.