how do I cite a quote from a primary source if I get it from a secondary source

spdegabrielle
Sorry if this is the wrong category,

How do I cite a quote from a primary source if I get it from a secondary source?

Eg

da ad ada ; "the quick brown fox"(smith1999) in Jones (2004)

I have got the quote of smith from jones 2004 - I don't have smith's paper.

Is there a way tol do this in zotero (preferably in the Harvard/APA style)?

Cheers,

Stephen
  • bdarcus
    You can just add them as two references, and make the link using prefix and/or suffix. But I think you'd need to do (Smith, 1999; in Jones, 2004).

    Note to Dan: I'm thinking Zotero needs to a Quote object, and that it ought to be able to be possible to have this association be handled automatically.
  • erazlogo
    edited February 28, 2008
    Note to Dan: I'm thinking Zotero needs to a Quote object, and that it ought to be able to be possible to have this association be handled automatically.
    No need to add a Quote object, since the regular child note would need the same feature--a paraphrase or an interpretation of the author's argument would also need to be footnoted.
  • bdarcus
    Good point. But I still think Zotero needs a quote object also.

    I just added bibo:Excerpt and the subclass bibo:Quote the other day, after having seen this example.
  • DomFurniss
    Hi,

    I don't know whether I have been referencing wrong but say I quote from Guba and Lincoln (1994) in the main body of the text, then the actual reference for this quote may be quite complicated (e.g. see below). The only way I see to handle this at the moment is to manually 'Zotero edit Bibliography' with each reference with all the 'cited by' information. Is this right?

    References
    Guba, E. & Lincoln, Y. (1994). Competing Paradigms in Qualitative Research. In N. Denzin & Y. Lincoln (Eds.), Handbook of Qualitative Research. P 105 – 117. CA: Sage. Cited in Annells, M. (1996). Grounded Theory Method: Philosophical Perspectives, Paradigm of Inquiry, and Postmodernism. Qualitative Health Research, 6, 3, 379-393.

    OR

    Proctor, A. and Morse, J. (1996). Sounds of comfort in the trauma centre: How nurses talk to patients in pain. In Social Sciences & Medicine, 42 (12), 1669 – 1680. Cited in Morse, J. (1997). Considering Theory Derived From Qualitative Research. In Morse, J. (Ed.). Completing a Qualitative Project: Details and Dialogue. London: Sage Publications. 163 – 188.

    Thanks

    Dom
  • Tjowens
    DomFurniss: Modeling those kinds of complicated relationships would not be out of the question when we move to a hierarchical data structure for references. But, for the time being you will need to manually edit these kinds of references.

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