How to cite books from Archive.org and books.google.com?

rjm95

Using Chicago style (full note), I have entered the bibliographic details for an old book I have accessed on archive.org. I have set "item type" as book. I have entered the URL of the archive.org entry. And I have included a date accessed.

My footnote output looks like this:
James Raine, ed., Testamenta Eboracensia; A Selection of Wills from the Registry at York, vol. 3, Surtees Society 45 (Durham: Andrews and Co., 1865), http://archive.org/details/testamentaebora05claygoog.

Shouldn't it include the date accessed, and an indication that this is a Web citation?

Meanwhile, MLA includes date and "Web", but no URL:
Raine, James, ed. Testamenta Eboracensia; A Selection of Wills from the Registry at York. Vol. 3. Durham: Andrews and Co., 1865. Web. 25 May 2012. Surtees Society 45.

I use lots of sources like this, so I want to be sure I'm doing the right thing. Is there a different "input type" I should be using??

Thanks!

rjm95

Sorry--I should have checked CMS on this first.

The answer on Chicago can be found in 14.5 and 14.7 (http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/16/ch14/ch14_sec005.html):

-URL is only required info, last element in note, and set off by comma like everything else (no semicolon).
-no access date required

It does seem to me practical, since URLs break, to also provide the name of the service that provides the book, in this case Internet Archive. CMS supports this practice.

But how would I include it in Zotero? Using the "Archive" field?

And I'm still wondering about MLA, which *does* require either URL or name of source service.

adamsmith

We don't have a good field for the database of online sources currenlty. I don't think archive will look right, but you can try.
MLA doesn't require access date or URL, since - as they say - you can just search for the title. You can include a database, though, as for CMoS.