OOo citation: remove/reorder items from multiple sources
Inserting a citation in OOo with multiple sources enabled, it would be nice to be able to remove and/or reorder items from the list. Otherwise I have to start from scratch.
Regards, Jon.
So, my point stands: if someone is using the APA style, their citations should be sorted automatically. If they're not, there's a bug in Zotero.
ps: I use the Microsoft Word plugin and I am not able to reorder the items when I click on "multipe sources".
However, if a single citation is changed to a multiple, or more references are added to an existing multiple citation, the additions are NOT sorted.
I am using Zotero 1.0.3, Word plugin 1.0b3 and APA style
(out of interest, how can I tell which version of the Word plugin I am using? I just reinstalled it to make sure I had the latest, but there must be an easier way?)
[I have reposted this comment to a new thread in Troubleshooting, (http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/2748/word-plugin-failing-to-correctly-sort-edited-multiple-citations/) as I think this is faulty behaviour rather than a feature request]
Could this be changed by allowing for other columns, e.g. the column that is used for sorting anyway?
A simple up/down command in order to arrange the items selected in the list would truly be helpful. Just the way you add or remove the selected items as multiple sources. Otherwise working with larger footnotes, like needed for a phd-thesis, is impossible.
G.
See in: BookA (1990); and BookB (1992); for another opinion, see: Book C (1989); for a third, see: BookD (1996).
Now I want to insert the BookN (2000) right in the middle between BookC and BookD.
This just can't be done by a style, it needs to be the authors choice. And I would need this freedom if I wish to use zotero professionally.
How can I do that?
I also find myself often in situations where I have to redo the whole citation, which may be complex with different page numbers, prefixes, suffixes etc. Even if sorting is turned off you still can't change it anymore afterwards without re-doing it. IMHO it makes for a cumbersome user experience when you want/are required to sort your citations by importance or relevance (as some journals stipulate).
>I am currently using Org Science CSL but cannot arrange multiple sources in a chronological order.
Can you point me to the Org Science spec that describes sorting? I wish journals were better at actually spec'ing their requirements.... If you find something, I could have a go at it.
1. I was getting a multiple citation like this: [2],[1],[3] and there was no way to fix it. Even inserting the references from scratch, with/without "keep sources sorted", etc.
2. In Word I clicked the "Zotero Set Doc Prefs" button in the Zotero toolbar and selected the American Psychological Association 6th Edition style. Clicked OK to update and refresh my citations and bibliography in the document.
3. So my citations were nicely ordered but in APA style. Then I returned to IEEE style, with "Zotero Set Doc Prefs" and I got my multiple citations the way they should be: [1-3]
So far this is working well with this back and forth re-styling.
I don't see what could be so difficult about sorting multiple citations first by name and then by date, but then again I am not a programmer. In any case, I would have thought it was a given that the software sorts it for you. Otherwise, what's the point?!
I am going to continue using Zotero because I've got my entire libabry synced now, and because it's free. But there's certainly room for improvement here.
The reason Harvard European Archaeology doesn't sort citations by author and date in the citation is that it's not in the style - Zotero is very much capable of that. Since there is no official style guide I don't know if it _should_ sort.
It's not hard to adapt the style
just add
<sort>
<key macro="author-short"/>
<key variable="year-date"/>
</sort>
right before the line
<layout prefix="(" suffix=")" delimiter="; ">
see here for instructions.
http://www.zotero.org/support/csl_simple_edits
1) Open the Info tab for the item you want to put first.
2) Edit the Call Number, make it say 1
3) Repeat steps 1-2 for all other items making the call number increase by 5 or 10 (to allow for later addition of other items in middle of the list or moving existing items to other positions)
4) Make the items sortable by Call Number - by adding a column Call Number in the mid section
5) Sort the items by Call number and export
Hope this will help someone.