Upgrade StorageOOo plugin generates inconsistent footnotes
Hi, I just come across the most frustrating thing in my 11-month experience with Zotero.
The OOo plugin generates footnotes that are inconsistent:
1. Does not suppress author in SOME multiple entries footnotes - eg. I have 2 similar footnotes in a row (call them 24 & 25), both are multiple entries of books by same author. Strangely I can suppress author in 25 but not in 24. When I put my cursor on the footnotes, both shows that they have [suppressed author], but in fact note 24 just shows the author's name repeated for 5 times.
2. Full citation, brief citation, and ibid - I quote from the same work in several consecutive footnotes. In the first note, it gives me a full citation (which is correct); in the 2nd not, ibid, also good; 3rd note, author surname and short title (fine but weird, as ibid has already appeared); 4th note, ibid; 5th note, full citation (author full name, full title, publisher, date). Uh oh!
(I must emphasise that they are consecutive footnotes in a row, all on the same page.)
These I can only call them inconsistencies. Please tell me if there is a way to solve or go around these problems, cos they are very annoying.
Or is that a bug that awaits to be fixed?
Manually editing them won't work, cos when I refresh the document, they would all go back to the condition as generated by the plugin.
Thank you all.
The OOo plugin generates footnotes that are inconsistent:
1. Does not suppress author in SOME multiple entries footnotes - eg. I have 2 similar footnotes in a row (call them 24 & 25), both are multiple entries of books by same author. Strangely I can suppress author in 25 but not in 24. When I put my cursor on the footnotes, both shows that they have [suppressed author], but in fact note 24 just shows the author's name repeated for 5 times.
2. Full citation, brief citation, and ibid - I quote from the same work in several consecutive footnotes. In the first note, it gives me a full citation (which is correct); in the 2nd not, ibid, also good; 3rd note, author surname and short title (fine but weird, as ibid has already appeared); 4th note, ibid; 5th note, full citation (author full name, full title, publisher, date). Uh oh!
(I must emphasise that they are consecutive footnotes in a row, all on the same page.)
These I can only call them inconsistencies. Please tell me if there is a way to solve or go around these problems, cos they are very annoying.
Or is that a bug that awaits to be fixed?
Manually editing them won't work, cos when I refresh the document, they would all go back to the condition as generated by the plugin.
Thank you all.
Yes, as I said in the PS right above your message, I AM using the Chicago note with biblio.
I don't know how you (or they, whoever) define full citation. I just mean this format:
"author full name, book title (place: publisher, year)."
I do get this.
BUT: my problem is the inconsistency -- it gives me different things at different times, even when they are consecutive footnotes on the same book!
No, not possible at all.
bdarcus:
I do not have to way to do that, but I can demonstrate it below - just imagine you are reading my footnotes
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1. Clive Marsh, Theology Goes to the Movies: An Introduction to Critical Christian Thinking (Oxford and New York: Routledge, 2007), 22-24.
2. Ibid., 27.
3. Marsh, Theology Goes to the Movies, 65.
4. Clive Marsh, Theology Goes to the Movies: An Introduction to Critical Christian Thinking (Oxford and New York: Routledge, 2007), 27.
5. Ibid., 65-66.
While you're at it, look at your chosen style--from the example you cite above it must be Chicago FULL note with bibliography, not Chicago note with bibilography (as I explain above, the latter does not include full footnote citations).
I assume you have Reference marks checked since that's the default. If that's the case, the problem must be with the OOo plugin for Windows, because Mac plugin works fine.
Yes, you're right. Chicago full note with biblio, and Reference marks. (Now I remember I have consciously chose this, cos it said Book mark might be accidentally modified.)
So, what can we do about it?
In subsequent footnotes on the same book, if I cite a specific page number, it would come out as (for example): Ibid., 27; Ibid., 204; etc.
But if I don't specify the number, it will generate the author's surname with the short book title.
Ultimately I am not certain if that is the Chicago Manual requirement or a bug. Can anyone enlighten me on that?
It listed my first citation on a certain books as ibid., then give the full details! How about that! (same style: Chicago full note)
eg:
1. Ibid.
2. Clive Marsh, Theology Goes to the Movies (blablabla...).
What can I or anyone do about this?