Auto-Refresh problems

techgnosispa

I use the Chicago Manual of Style, author-date system. I also use "ibid." in cases where the same work is cited in close proximity. (Yes I know that ibid. is not generally used with author-date, but I do.)

Sometime back a graduate assistant entered a number of references. She did each "ibid." as a custom citation within the document. However, she capitalized "Ibid." I asked her to correct this, which she did. She also replaced some hyphens with en-dashes (in page numbers).

Now, however, I notice that all of these changes have been overridden somehow. In other words, everything is back to the way it was. Supposedly, edited citations don't auto-refresh. But it seems like they are. Or is something else going on? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!

adamsmith

how did she edit them? They will be overwritten if the editing is done in word. The only way they won't be is with the "show editor" function of the plugin.

(Also, it's pretty easy to code ibid into an author-date style, that seems a lot easier and less fragile) .

techgnosispa

Thank you Adam. Perhaps she did edit them in Word...

And, as for the coding, I would be extremely grateful for any information you could provide on that front. I have not tried coding in Zotero yet...
~Mark

adamsmith

put this in the citation section of chicago author-date, replacing the part that currently runs from the first line (<layout...) to the last one (</citation)
http://www.zotero.org/support/csl_simple_edits
for general instructions.
The ibids will work automatically.

<layout prefix="(" suffix=")" delimiter="; ">
<choose>
<if position="ibid-with-locator">
<group delimiter=", ">
<text term="ibid" text-case="capitalize-first" suffix="."/>
<text macro="point-locators"/>
</group>
</if>
<else-if position="ibid">
<text term="ibid" text-case="capitalize-first" suffix="."/>
</else-if>
<else>
<group delimiter=", ">
<group delimiter=" ">
<text macro="contributors-short"/>
<text macro="date"/>
</group>
<text macro="point-locators"/>
</group>
</else>
</choose>
</layout>
</citation>