[Bug] tracing down the origin of multiple citation ordering problem
Hi,
I think I could trace down the origin of multiple citation re-ordering bug.
First of all, I am using Zotero 2.0.3 / WinWord Integration 3.0a3. I'm editing a manuscript written in Windows Word 2007.
The problem for me (and many others as far as I know) is when I'm editing multiple citations, sometimes 'keep citations sorted' functionality does not work.
e.g.
When I initially have 3 articles cited as (1-3) in the manuscript:
1. A, 2009
2. B, 2006
3. C, 2007
which I want to re-order them chronologically as
1. B, 2006
2. C, 2007
3. A, 2009
and want to show as (1-3) in the citation,
I cannot do that since in the 'add/edit citations' windows, auto-sorting puts them always in the order of
1. A, 2009
2. B, 2006
3. C, 2007
in the bibliography regardless of whatever I do. (I tried removing and adding them in order but it returns to the above order every time.)
Also if I turn off auto-sorting, I can get
1. B, 2006
2. C, 2007
3. A, 2009
in the bibliography but citation shows up as (3,1,2).
At this status, eureka moment came when I clicked 'show editor' in 'add/edit citations' windows. The numbering was different from (3,1,2), it was something like (7,12,13).
So it became clear to me that Zotero permanently remembers the order of citations when we put them for the first time in a word file, and then always use that putting orders for auto-sorting purpose. It remembers orders even when we completely remove the citation from the Word file, and re-uses this old order information when the article comes back. (And the editor shows the number Zotero memorized!!)
Which is a very good idea except that Zotero should not remember the order permanently. Because this behavior prevents users from editing multiple citation orders freely. So, the correct behavior should be that Zotero deletes the record for the order of articles at the instance when those articles are totally removed from the word file.
In my case, I could bypass this auto-sorting bug by completely removing Zotero code from my Word file, and re-entered all citations in order. After that, when I clicked 'show editor' in 'add/edit citations' window, I saw exact same number (1,2,3) as I see in the manuscript (1,2,3), confirming my hypothesis.
I hope it is resolved, since this problem was haunting many people in this forum for a long time.
Thanks.
I think I could trace down the origin of multiple citation re-ordering bug.
First of all, I am using Zotero 2.0.3 / WinWord Integration 3.0a3. I'm editing a manuscript written in Windows Word 2007.
The problem for me (and many others as far as I know) is when I'm editing multiple citations, sometimes 'keep citations sorted' functionality does not work.
e.g.
When I initially have 3 articles cited as (1-3) in the manuscript:
1. A, 2009
2. B, 2006
3. C, 2007
which I want to re-order them chronologically as
1. B, 2006
2. C, 2007
3. A, 2009
and want to show as (1-3) in the citation,
I cannot do that since in the 'add/edit citations' windows, auto-sorting puts them always in the order of
1. A, 2009
2. B, 2006
3. C, 2007
in the bibliography regardless of whatever I do. (I tried removing and adding them in order but it returns to the above order every time.)
Also if I turn off auto-sorting, I can get
1. B, 2006
2. C, 2007
3. A, 2009
in the bibliography but citation shows up as (3,1,2).
At this status, eureka moment came when I clicked 'show editor' in 'add/edit citations' windows. The numbering was different from (3,1,2), it was something like (7,12,13).
So it became clear to me that Zotero permanently remembers the order of citations when we put them for the first time in a word file, and then always use that putting orders for auto-sorting purpose. It remembers orders even when we completely remove the citation from the Word file, and re-uses this old order information when the article comes back. (And the editor shows the number Zotero memorized!!)
Which is a very good idea except that Zotero should not remember the order permanently. Because this behavior prevents users from editing multiple citation orders freely. So, the correct behavior should be that Zotero deletes the record for the order of articles at the instance when those articles are totally removed from the word file.
In my case, I could bypass this auto-sorting bug by completely removing Zotero code from my Word file, and re-entered all citations in order. After that, when I clicked 'show editor' in 'add/edit citations' window, I saw exact same number (1,2,3) as I see in the manuscript (1,2,3), confirming my hypothesis.
I hope it is resolved, since this problem was haunting many people in this forum for a long time.
Thanks.