Merging Chapters with Footnotes - On a Mac

I am running Sequoia 15.5 on a mac mini. 16 GB, intel chip.

I have my book in 21 chapters, about 65,000 words, with 20-70 footnotes per chapter. I have read that Zotero can get very slow once I merge the chapters into the book template.

Should I:

1) Sever the footnote ties to Zotero before I copy to the book template (one chapter at a time)
or
2) Copy over all the chapters and then sever the tie to the Zotero database.

Once in Word, I am moving the footnotes to endnotes. I understand once I sever the tie to the Zotero database, I have to maintain the notes on my own.

Thank you for your input.
  • Anybody out there?
  • No one responding?
  • edited 4 days ago
    The Zotero Mac integration is slow due to some limitations. You can find other threads in the topic if you want to read about it.
    You have two options.
    Merge the documents and then let it update and run through. It might look like it gets stuck, but it'll be working in the background. Do this overnight when you leave the computer.

    Alternatively, do it on a PC if you have access to one. The integration is a lot faster there.

    Also, it's ok to ping after a day or so. You will see there are many threads and one can get lost among them. But two pings straight after another is seen as rude. It's Sunday on top of that, so less people are online.
  • edited 4 days ago
    I guess I will experiment. Since I have so many moving pieces, I think I will sever the tie to Zotero chapter by chapter as I copy/paste each chapter. That way the manuscript in total will not have any ties to Zotero, and therefore no slowness.

    And I posted this six days ago...is it not rude to ignore a post for six days? And this was my first post...welcome to the world of Zotero!
  • (the point was you posted on Saturday evening and Sunday morning, which is rather odd; posting a reminder after 6 days is perfectly fine).

    You don't need a bibliography? Because for that, you'll have to have everything active in a single document.
  • Goodness! This is worse than Reddit :-)

    I'm doing a full note in Chicago style as my footnotes (to become endnotes), which "technically" eliminates the need for a bibliography. But I produced a bibliography directly from Zotero and edited it to a "selected bibliography."

    It's curious to me why the performance issues in the Mac and, to some degree, Windows with Microsoft Word are not solved, and yet I see a lot of posts on "new" functionality. It's like designing a car that does great if you drive it a block, but it struggles to go across town. I worked 35 years at a college, and I would be hesitant to recommend Zotero to students because of its struggles with large projects, where it is needed the most. I wouldn't need this for the average 10 to 20 page paper in college, but I would have loved this for my thesis and dissertation. But beware - it doesn't seem to work well for those types of large documents. Just my 2 cents.
  • The Mac issue is an issue with the Word for Mac API which is just very slow, i.e. Zotero just isn't able to get the data into Word any faster, it's not that Zotero itself is running slowly; there is no comparable performance issue on Windows -- it might slowdown a little on a massive document, but it's completely viable to edit a book-length work in Word for Windows (or in Libre Office on any platform), especially if you turn off automated updates as recommended.
  • (We've also written a new plugin that enables much faster integration on macOS, as well as add support for Word Online, but it requires additional changes from Microsoft before we can release it.)
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