Zotero and Claude 3.5 sonnet

clevpto
Has anyone integrated Claude with zotero? I have a Claude API key.
I'm pretty much a new beginner at this AI stuff, when I look at zotero AI plugin, I don't see any plugin with Claude.

Any suggestions? Thanks!
  • haug
    I’m not aware of a plugin for Claude but there are several for ChatGPT. The most usable one (according to me) is called ARIA.
  • hellobigworld
    You can try zotero-chatpdf open source recently on GitHub. It supports Claude, Gemini besides GPTs. If you are a Mac user, the free local LLMs of llama3.2, gemma2, mistral and phi-3.5 are all built-in supported.
  • sdflewrit783
    @hellobigworld Interesting... Can this (or something else), look at multiple PDFs, say in a Zotero collection? Or even at all PDFs in Zotero (that is potentially many thousands). This would be much more useful for discovery and associations than interpreting one.
  • hellobigworld
    Hi,sdflewrit783
    Thanks for your comments.
    The underlying software of our plugin supports multi-documentation with tens of thousands of documents index query capability support,but it is not integrated with the plugin.
    Because we don’t know if this function is needed by most users,and adding this function would take some effort and time,so it’s not available currently.
    May I ask if you know if this requirement is indeed needed by most users ?
  • sdflewrit783
    I really cannot speak for all users. In our case we have a research group that shares a reference base across multiple groups and projects, and we use the research literature in teaching, this is many hundreds of students, but they only use a small proportion of the library.

    Also, it is a mixed OS environment, Linux, Mac and many on Windows...

    For me, discovery in controlled collections of documents is a major unsolved problem while chatting with a couple is a minor additional convenience.
  • haug
    edited November 5, 2024
    I tried using Zotero-Chatpdf and it is extremely buggy and basically unusable (very weird stuff going on, such as flickering UI elements and the modal sticking to your mousepointer so that the only way to get back to normal operation is to disable the plugin. I also don't like that it goes ahead and installs an entire application (chatpdflocal) which then sits in your dock for no apparent reason. Note also that Zotero-Chatpdf is a fork of zotero-gpt (Or Awesome GPT, as the plugin calls itself) (https://github.com/MuiseDestiny/zotero-gpt). I found Zotero GPT to be rather difficult and buggy to use, but at this point, it works much better that Zotero-ChatPDF.

    Zotero-GPT introduced the interesting idaea if "Command Tags" (which are basically different prompts you can use to send you data to the model), but in order to customize these, you need to buy the Pro version, which is pretty much inaccessible to non-chinese speakers (https://airy-manta-58b.notion.site/Zotero-GPT-Pro-d1e210f422c44336b9ee7d0cb566f7e3) That site relies so heavily on javascript that I can't even get google translate to translate it.
  • hellobigworld
    Hi, haug:

    First of all, this plugin in our own environments is running very well, if you have problems on your client you can raise an issue here(https://github.com/ljeagle/zotero-chatpdf) . Our project is completely open source and open. Whether the UI is good, I think different people have different view. You do not like the UI, there may be some others like it. And the codes are open source, can be updated and improved at any time. If you are interested in this project, you can also participate in the construction together.

    Secondly, zotero-gpt is an excellent open source project with 5.1k stars, there are a lot of loyal fans, very grateful for its open source contribution. Inspired by zotero-gpt, our project zotero-chatpdf is based on it and we have made a lot of unique, big changes and improvements: not only support openai gpt, but also support gemini and claude which are the best commercial large models in the current AI market.

    In addition, the most significant improvement is the support for local open source SOTA Edge AI large models, the current default built-in support 4 kinds of models ,llama3.2, gemma2, mistral and phi-3.5. one-click automatically download, install, run and switch, you can also update to the latest and best large models at any time In addition to local large models, embeddings, vector database and rerank RAG modules are all built-in locally. Models and data are all stored locally, without any outgoing data, ensuring 100% security of personal data privacy. The whole chain of large models+application is processed locally, which is good at processing local big data storage and computation. As everyone knows, embeddings and large language model inference are computationally intensive operations, in order to ensure the performance of the back-end, all the codes have been written with swift and c/c++ all by ourselves, so we need additional workflow agent ChatPDFLocal to do the support, if only use JS, the final effects are completely impossible to achieve.
  • hellobigworld
    Hi,sdflewrit783
    About this feature “look at multiple PDFs”,we need to do a requirement survey to see if more users have the same requirement ,if the result is yes , we’ll implement this feature and let you know in time.
  • clevpto
    @haug, thanks for the suggestion! But I don’t have the key currently ,I will try it later when I get an openai key.
  • clevpto
    @hellobigworld, thanks for the info,I will try it with my claude key.
  • clevpto
    hi, @hellobigworld
    Sorry for reply so late, I've been struggling with papers recently.

    Thanks for your recommandation for the zotero-chatpdf, I are using it to help me to read paper and improve my writing, I like this new AI friend.

    My claude key can be used now, and the efficiency of reading paper is improved by "chatpdf" function. I can also use the plugin to improve my understanding and writing , I like the "translate" and "improve writing" function. And I also try the local Llama 3.2 it's smart enough, it's fabulous that I can save my claude tokens and money with it to read and write.

    I think you can improve the UI to make it better. And sometimes I think there is a bug, I need to type Ecs, then Command+ Enter to restart it again, I will continue to see more point that should be improved, I will follow the github to look forward the newest version and also raise some issues on github to help to improve.

    Any way this plugin is helpful and enough for me, thanks so much for your hard work!
  • hellobigworld
    Hi,clevpto
    Thank you for using it!This plugin is in continuous interaction.We will continue to fix and improve this plugin.Please follow us on github and get the latest version to try it.
  • timtak
    Hello hellowbigworld

    Thank you.

    I downloaded the xpi file from
    https://www.papersgpt.com/blogs/cookbook-papersgpt

    (the github link at
    https://github.com/papersgpt/papersgpt-for-zotero/releases/download/papersgpt-v0.0.1/papersgpt.xpi
    is broken)

    I installed it according to your instructions (Tools>addons>cog>from file>papersgpt.xpi) and papersgpt is shown in my list of add ons.
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/zotero.org/images/forums/u219/cxf5mauc3mwgen50djk4.jpg

    I press CTRL Enter both in the main part of Zotero, and while viewing a PDF shown in Zotero in a different tab, and nothing happens. I tried rebooting Zotero.

    Do you or anyone else have any suggestions?


    Tim
    PS
    I am also looking at an AI equipped reference manager beginning with "A," since AI does not seem to part of Zotero's roadmap, and I would like to use AI.
    PPS
    I have a CHatGPT subscription at the moment, but I am not sure if I need to use it.
  • hellobigworld
    Hi, timtak:
    Sorry for the late reply. You are using an old version, we just updated the download file in the document you used (I mean the cook-book),the latest version v0.0.3, sorry for not updating in time.

    Please try again with the latest version zotero 7 and papersgpt v0.0.3, you can also follow our github website to get the latest release version. Any problem please let me know!

    The zotero plugin supports many popular SOTA LLMs, for online LLMs, you need to purchase the api-key, you can use your gpt key here to help you to chat with papers.

    If you are a mac user, you can also use local LLMs such as llama-3.2–3b, QwQ-32B-Preview,Marco-o1,phi-3.5-mini, mistral-nemo ,gemma2, you don't need to purchase api-key for these models, all the local model are free for chat pdfs.
  • RLCatF
    Hi hellobigworld,

    Thanks for providing the opensource chatpdf plugin. I'm in the similar boat as timtak that I ran into issue activating the plugin using CTRL + Enter on windows. I tried both v0.0.3 and v0.0.5, neither work. Do you have any further suggestion?

    Thanks
  • hellobigworld
    Hi, RLCatF:
    Sorry, I can't reproduce it on my side. We will monitor it.
    You can refer to my environment, win11+zotero 7.0.11(64 bit)+ papersgpt v005. Or can you try to restart zotero and papersgpt to see if it's ok , for restarting the plugin use "ESC " and "CTRL + Enter". You can also try to reinstall (remove and then install ) this plugin to have a try. In v0.0.5 we just added an icon (a blue storm icon in the upper part of zotero window) you can also try to click it.
    Please try and let me know if it works, if not please provide more info, we can investigate.
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