Remove space between disambiguating initials and surname?

elcalebo

Hi,

Is there a way to edit a Zotero style so that it removes the space between an author's initial(s) and their surname in footnotes when initials are required for disambiguation? I have some authors in my PhD whom I cite a lot, and then if I find i need to cite one other small thing by someone else with the same last name, I get hit with the disambiguation initials and it's killing my wordcount.

I have managed to get rid of the space between an author's two initials by changing initialize-with=". " to initialize-with="." but I'm still getting "R.B. Hays" when I want "R.B.Hays".

Is it some edit to this part - the disambiguation rule maybe? I can't see where these rules are defined anywhere in the style code itself, so it must be built into Zotero.

disambiguate-add-names="true" disambiguate-add-givenname="true" givenname-disambiguation-rule="primary-name"

I know that I can delete the disambiguation with names and just use disambiguation with year suffixes. But I do actually want to distinguish between authors with the same name - just without it adding a word to my wordcount every dang time.

Any help would be appreciated!

damnation

If you share your style via pastebin.com or similar we can have a look and suggest the necessary edit.

adamsmith

I'm pretty sure CSL won't let you remove that space.
You can get Hays,R.B. though, I believe -- the sort separator would be "," and name-as-sort-order="always"

elcalebo

@Damnation, thank you! though adamsmith seems to doubt that it's possible.
I am working with this style - i have made some edits (e.g. adding Ibid) but haven't changed the parts relevant to his discussion. If you find a way to do e.g. R.B.Hays then please let me know! https://www.zotero.org/styles/world-politics

@adamsmith: Thank you so much! I have done that, and it's achieving exactly what I want re wordcounts! I still think I prefer R.B.Hays but, actually, maybe Hays,R.B. is better because it keeps the standard structure of non-disambiguated entries of having family name first.

For the sake of anyone googling and finding this conversation:
I added the text adamsmith suggested to this part:

elcalebo

hmm it cut off my comment, it seems not to like me using the actual angle brackets. OK here's what i tried to write, with angle brackets changed to {}

For the sake of anyone googling and finding this conversation:
I added the text adamsmith suggested to this part:
{name form="short"

I added the code that adamsmith suggested to this line, although the actual code is "all" rather than "always".

So this is what it now looks like: (note I have also edited initialize-with to remove the space between initials and edited and= from "text" to "symbol" so that it uses "&" between final two authors)
{name form="short" and="symbol" delimiter=", " initialize-with="." name-as-sort-order="all" sort-separator="," /}