Modifying style: why is an error?

Nicolae

Hy,
I'm trying to modify APA style (CSL schema updated). But when I want to eliminate paranthesis, the style doesn't work. Why? Is there a connection that i don't know?

Example:
...
</macro>
<citation>
<option name="et-al-min" value="6"/>
<option name="et-al-use-first" value="6"/>
<option name="et-al-subsequent-min" value="6"/>
<option name="et-al-subsequent-use-first" value="1"/>

<-- HERE THE PARANTHESIS ARE. WHY CAN'T I ELIMINATE THEM??? --!>
<layout prefix="(" suffix=")" delimiter="; ">

<choose>
<if position="first">
<text macro="author"/>
<text macro="title"/>
<text macro="publisher" prefix=", "/>
<date variable="issued" prefix=", ">
<date-part name="year"/>
</date>
<text variable="locator" prefix="; "/>
</if>
<else>
<text macro="author"/>
<text macro="title"/>
<text variable="locator" prefix=": "/>
</else>
</choose>
</layout>
</citation>
<bibliography>
...

Thank you very much!

Mihai

dstillman

How are you trying to remove them? You should be able to remove the prefix and suffix attributes without a problem.

bdarcus

I don't think that file is valid against the new schema.

Nicolae

Yes, the file is valid (verified with Oxygen 8.2).
Yes, i've tried to remove prefix and suffix.
I propose a test: take the APA style for new schema and remove prefix and sufix with 2 paranthesis. The style don't work!!!
I waiting for another style (new schema), Chicago with bibliography... It is more similar with my desires.

I'm very proud of your work at Zotero,

Thank you,
Mihai

dstillman

I propose a test: take the APA style for new schema and remove prefix and sufix with 2 paranthesis.

I did, and it worked for me in csledit.xul, at least. Unless we're looking at different things.

Nicolae

Excuse me, friends,
my fault! It works!!!!
Excuse me and thank you very much!

Mihai

Nicolae

Hi,

I've found the error! I want to have a footnote: Autor, Title, Year. When in APA style (new schema) I introduce title, the paranthesis reapear: (Autor, Title, Year) !!!

Example:

<citation>
<option name="et-al-min" value="6"/>
<option name="et-al-use-first" value="6"/>
<option name="et-al-subsequent-min" value="6"/>
<option name="et-al-subsequent-use-first" value="1"/>
<option name="disambiguate-add-year-suffix" value="true"/>
<option name="disambiguate-add-names" value="true"/>
<option name="disambiguate-add-givenname" value="true"/>
<layout>
<text macro="author-short"/>
<text macro="title"/> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS PUT 2 paranthesis!!!
<date variable="issued" prefix=", ">
<date-part name="year"/>
</date>
<text variable="locator" prefix=": "/>
</layout>
</citation>

If you want to see the macros for author and title:

<macro name="editor-translator">
<names variable="editor translator" prefix="(" suffix=")" delimiter=", ">
<name and="symbol" initialize-with="." delimiter=", "/>
<label form="short" prefix=", " text-transform="capitalize" suffix="."/>
</names>
</macro>
<macro name="author">
<names variable="author" font-variant="small-caps">
<name name-as-sort-order="all" and="symbol" sort-separator=", "
delimiter=", " delimiter-precedes-last="never"/>
<label form="short" prefix=" (" suffix=".)" text-transform="capitalize"/>
<substitute>
<names variable="editor"/>
<names variable="translator"/>
<text macro="title"/>
</substitute>
</names>
</macro>
<macro name="author-short">
<names variable="author" font-variant="small-caps">
<name form="long" and="symbol" delimiter=", "/>
<substitute>
<names variable="editor"/>
<names variable="translator"/>
<choose>
<if type="book">
<text variable="title" font-style="italic"/>
</if>
<else>
<text variable="title" quotes="true"/>
</else>
</choose>
</substitute>
</names>
</macro>
.........................................................................
<macro name="title">
<choose>
<if type="book">
<text variable="title" font-style="italic"/>
</if>
<else>
<text variable="title"/>
</else>
</choose>
</macro>
......................

Question: how can I put the title in the footnote, WITHOUT the 2 paranthesis?

Thanks a lot,
Mihai

Nicolae

It works with <text variable="title">!
Mihai

bdarcus

If all of that is right, then it looks to me there's a bug in the implementation of macros. I can't see anything that would cause the title macro to add the parentheses.