Removing 3-em dashes from the subsequent author names

rhwork

Hello,

I am currently using the Chicago Style 17th edition for my citations. My publisher has requested that I replace the 3-em dashes, which typically appear in the bibliography for entries by the same author or authors of multiple works, with the actual names of the author(s) or editor(s). I attempted to edit this by removing the "subsequent-author-substitute" element, but I couldn't locate it in my code in the first place. Additionally, I am unable to upload my citation code here. What should I do?

Thank you.

adamsmith

The element is here: https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/blob/master/chicago-fullnote-bibliography.csl#L1438 (and correspondingly in the same line for other Chicago styles)
General instructions on https://www.zotero.org/support/dev/citation_styles/style_editing_step-by-step

To share full style code, paste it to a code sharing site like pastebin.com and link to from here. You can share small snippets here between <code> </code> HTML snippets

rhwork

Thank you. I have pasted it in this link:

https://pastebin.com/jwT6fp4M

I appreciate your help.

adamsmith

subsequent-author-substitute="———" is in line 1387

rhwork

Do do I just remove this line only?

What if I want to remove the “ibid” as well?

Thank you.

adamsmith

Not the line, no, that's necessary -- you remove that specific string.

If you don't want ibid, that's more complex to edit, but there are all sorts of Chicago styles without ibid you can use.

rhwork

Thank you so much for your help. To be honest, I am not sure where to find this line in the visual CSL editor or what you mean by "remove specific string". Attached is an image of what I see. Do you think you can pin point what I need to do to remove the 3-em dashes from the subsequent author names?

Thank you
https://s3.amazonaws.com/zotero.org/images/forums/u5017997/7jgast8dbvq6aug6v3qs.png

notanotter

Hi,

Not sure if this has been resolved yet, but I had the exact same problem and stumbled upon this thread so I'll post my solution anyway :)

I was not able to find the subsequent author substitute in the visual csl editor, but you can do this instead:

- Go to the 'Code editor' tab in the csl editor

- Scroll right to the bottom of the csl code in the bottom window

- Line 650 contains the opening tag for the bibliography formatting; it should look like this: <bibliography hanging-indent="true" et-al-min="11" et-al-use-first="7" subsequent-author-substitute="———" entry-spacing="0">

- Delete the entire subsequent author tag (i.e., subsequent-author-substitute="———") - I believe this is what adamsmith was getting at

- Line 650 should now look like this: <bibliography hanging-indent="true" et-al-min="11" et-al-use-first="7" entry-spacing="0">

Then just go back to the 'Visual editor' tab, use the 'Style' drop-down in the top left to save the modified csl and import it into Zotero.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/zotero.org/images/forums/u13280886/58r2bseylfajo8ys7tlx.png

adamsmith

We now also have the two main Chicago variants -- full note and author-date -- available without em-dash:
https://www.zotero.org/styles?q=id:chicago-fullnote-bibliography-no-em-dash
https://www.zotero.org/styles?q=id:chicago-author-date-no-em-dash

The full note bibliography could be copied into a document using any other of the other Chicago note versions. That is, create a copy of your document, insert the bibliography using Chicago full note, then copy & paste that document into your existing document using, say, Chicago (note).