SAA Newspaper style

jennifer_melcher

Hoping someone can help me figure out how to edit the SAA style guide to address newspapers.
According to SAA Newspapers should be cited as follows
(Weekly Missouri Courier [WMC], 7 July 1838:[page numbers, if available]) Note: After first mention, simply use WMC with date (day/month/year format) and page. Also see Subsection 3.12.12.
Currently in the Zotero SAA style it just gives the Full name and the year, not the date, even though the full date is in the entry.
Thanks!

damnation

SAA refers to which style? Please include a link to the guidelines so we can help you faster, also.

jennifer_melcher

Thanks - Society for American Archaeology - Style guide is here.
https://documents.saa.org/container/docs/default-source/doc-publications/style-guide/saa-style-guide_english_updated_2021_final08023c15928949dabd02faafb269fb1c.pdf?sfvrsn=c1f41c1b_2

Also realized there's a similar issue with personal communication

damnation

I think you should enter "Weekly Missour Courier" into the author field, in single-field mode.

Apart from that I made some edits.

https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/raw/e8f09971379d2b33089ad24074856ef84bc4ba98/society-for-american-archaeology.csl

cara.kubiak

Hello, thanks for the discussion so far, I am having this same problem with the SAA style as well--

I tried using the edited style provided above, but this gives me the date in the wrong order (Month, day, year instead of Year, Month, day), comma placed incorrectly, and leaving off the page number.

Example--with the above customized style I am getting:
(Panama City Pilot March 26, 1908)

When it should be:
(Panama City Pilot, 26 March 1908:1)

It does say "day-month-year" in the code, so not sure why this is coming out this way, but I am very inexperienced in coding! Has there been any further insight into this?

damnation

Dates get localised and there is a difference between how British and US American English present those. Switch the language.

cara.kubiak

Thank you for the reply!

I have tried switching the language from US to British and restarting, and this style still gives the dates in the order of month, day, year. Is there anything else you can think of to try? Thanks

cara.kubiak

Hello, just pinging this thread again to see if anybody has had any success yet with correcting the newspaper citation outputs for SAA style, and if they would be willing to share what works.

With the customized style above, I am still getting dates in the wrong order and no page number included.

Thanks

mleight

The Society for American Archaeology had a major revision/update to their style guide in December 2023. They moved to something closer to the Chicago author-date style.

https://documents.saa.org/container/docs/default-source/doc-publications/style-guide/saa-style-guide_english_updated_2021_final08023c15928949dabd02faafb269fb1c.pdf?sfvrsn=c1f41c1b_2

I am writing because the current version of SAA in Zotero is now out-of-date (last updated April 2022/Sept 2023). Does anyone know if someone is working on fixing this style in the program/updating it to reflect the new guidelines? I realize the new guide is only 7 months old, but I know a lot of archaeologists use this platform.

Thanks for any updates you can offer!

damnation

If you tell us the changes it's easier for us to prioritise an update.

mleight

Humm... this is a tricky task because every single citation style changed! They no longer click "enter" to move the date below the author line. It is all pulled up alongside the [last name, first name]. All of the citations are now hanging indented too rather than left-aligned.

You can see the old style here: https://library.cms.ok.ubc.ca/wp-content/uploads/sites/116/2019/08/SAA_Citation_Style_2018Rev1.pdf

New style here: https://documents.saa.org/container/docs/default-source/doc-publications/style-guide/saa-style-guide_english_updated_2021_final08023c15928949dabd02faafb269fb1c.pdf?sfvrsn=c1f41c1b_14&_gl=1*1kjxsu9*_ga*MTEyMTE0NDQ4LjE3MTc3OTU0MjQ.*_ga_6SSR7BY1NJ*MTcxODM5NzQ0Mi4yLjAuMTcxODM5NzQ1OS4wLjAuMA..


As an example:

Book - OLD SAA:
Elster, Jon
1989 Nuts and Bolts for the Social Sciences. Cambridge University Press, New York.

Book - NEW SAA:
Joyce, Rosemary. 2000. Gender and Power in Prehispanic Mesoamerica. University of Texas Press, Austin. (hanging indent needed)

Article - OLD SAA:
[Author name]
[Year of publication] [Title of journal article]. [Title of journal] [Volume Number]([Issue number, where applicable]):[page numbers of article].

Seifert, Donna J.
1991 Within Sight of the White House: The Archaeology of Working Women. Historical Archaeology 25(4):82–108.

Article - NEW SAA:
Ashmore, Wendy. 1991. Site-Planning Principles and Concepts of Directionality among the Ancient Maya. Latin American Antiquity 2(3):199–226. (hanging indent needed)

Edited Book - OLD SAA:
McHugh, William P. (editor)
1977 The Teaching of Archaeology. Southern Illinois University Press, Carbondale.

Edited Book - NEW SAA:
Singleton, Theresa A. (editor). 1985. The Archaeology of Slavery and Plantation Life. Academic Press, Orlando, Florida.(hanging indent needed)

Anyway, I think it will take an extensive revision of Zotero's formatting to be current with the new SAA style guidelines. I don't think it is one I can spell out easily in this discussion forum in a useful way to your programmers either. Please let me know if that makes sense?

adamsmith

I have a contact at SAA -- let me ask there.

Lscottsouthres

Hello,

Have there been any updates to changing the code to reflect the newest SAA style guide? I have tried to poke around a little, but I am nowhere near talented enough to correctly update the style myself.

Thanks for any updates that can be provided!