Short Title Defaults to Small Caps???

rebernard
Whether I manually add a short title for subsequent citations or let Zotero automatically generate it, it keeps defaulting to putting the short title in small caps. The formatting is correct for the initial citation (Type: case), so I'm not sure what is causing it to change. Please help me!!!

I'm using Bluebook Law Review as my CSL style.
  • rebernard
    Just bumping this because it's a somewhat timely issue!
  • adamsmith
    They should just be in italics, yes?
  • rebernard
    Cases should be, yes. This is also happening with statutes, though, which should have no special font style added to them, so I'm not sure what the issue is. I've tried using the CSL visual editor to find the problem, but with little success.
  • adamsmith
    But the statutes will already appear in small caps in the initial citation, won't they?
  • rebernard
    Not using the 21st edition of the Bluebook. Rule 12 says the name of the code should be in small caps, but the title of the statute/legislation should be in normal typeface
  • adamsmith
    but the style in Zotero is also doing this wrong in the initial citation, right? Whereas I think cases look right in the initial cite and only subsequent cites are wrong?
  • adamsmith
    Sorry for all the questions, but I don't know BB well, so don't want to mess things up for others
  • adamsmith
    OK -- try this: https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/raw/b1e03b6beb3a14cb6e3927b503714774f53e1630/bluebook-law-review.csl

    (Just clicking the link should install the updated style)

    Let me know if that works -- you might need to change to a different style & back for all changes to take effect across a document, not sure.
  • rebernard
    You're fine! I'm double checking, too, because I've been messing around with trying to fix this and other issues (since Zotero is still limited for legal research).

    So it's not italicizing case names either in the initial citation, which I didn't initially flag as wrong because I'm using it to cite ICJ cases (which are not italicized). So technically it's wrong in both initial and subsequent cites.
  • rebernard
    I just used your updated CSL, and there's still issues. First, the short title for the case has both the italicized and small caps title consecutively. Second, the statute long cite now lists the name of the act twice—first normally, then in italics.

    I'm happy to send screenshots if that would be more helpful with diagnosing the issue!
  • adamsmith
    So it's not italicizing case names either in the initial citation, which I didn't initially flag as wrong because I'm using it to cite ICJ cases (which are not italicized). So technically it's wrong in both initial and subsequent cites.
    My reading is that only the name short form of cases should ever be italicized, so what the style is now doing is
    For initial citation: never italicize
    For subsequent: italicize when there is a short form, otherwise print regular. I think that's right (or at least most broadly right for cases.
    . First, the short title for the case has both the italicized and small caps title consecutively. Second, the statute long cite now lists the name of the act twice—first normally, then in italics.
    Ah sorry, should be fixed, try
    https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/raw/9c94ebb7a3306a36c6e7fea0b7f9eea84d1565e2/bluebook-law-review.csl

  • rebernard
    Case short title is fixed! Still having issue with statute long cites, but I have one that looks correct and one that doesn't (despite having the same fields filled out the same way in Zotero)? Possibly user error of some kind, but unsure.
  • adamsmith
    Try in a new document with the legislation. If they're still different, export both to CSL JSON and put them somewhere (e.g. pastebin.com) where I can easily look at them.
  • rebernard
    I figured out what was causing the difference! In the Extra field, I had "Type: treaty" to help with formatting, but only for one of the items. However, if I treat the item as a regular legislation, it is still listing the name of the act twice (once normal, then again in italics).

    Here is the CSL JSON for the legislation issue. I don't see anything that would obviously cause the issue, but maybe you see something I don't? https://pastebin.com/jNeFrU2i
  • adamsmith
    OK, third time is a charm: https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/raw/8f41084caab5921da51448cdef3d4f3a6cf0ab28/bluebook-law-review.csl
  • rebernard
    Fixed! Thank you so much for your help, I really appreciate it! I know BB can be especially pedantic and confusing.
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