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Feature Requests: OOo citation: remove/reorder items from multiple sources

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    • CommentAuthorGAIL
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2008
     
    Inserting a citation in OOo with multiple sources enabled, it would be nice to be able to remove and/or reorder items from the list. Otherwise I have to start from scratch.
    • CommentAuthorJon Rubin
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2008
     
    Second this, that would be helpful.
    Regards, Jon.
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    Also agree, this would be extremely useful!
    • CommentAuthortonyc2001
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2008
     
    I agree. Would it be possible for Zotero to order the citations in APA style in a multiple citation? e.g. alphabetically by first author, then by date for same first author, etc, see sect 3.99 of APA publication manual 5th ed.
    • CommentAuthorbdarcus
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2008
     
    Zotero should already sort the citations. If it doesn't, there's a bug.
    • CommentAuthorerazlogo
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2008 edited
     
    Well, actually Zotero shouldn't sort multiple references in one citation by default. In history footnotes often refer to the whole paragraph and in that case the order of references would depend on where the quote from the source appears within the paragraph. If alphabetical sorting within a citation is necessary for some styles, this should be an option in CSL, turned off by default.
    • CommentAuthorbdarcus
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2008
     
    Let me clarify: sorting of citations IS defined in CSL. The APA style includes instructions for sorting them.

    So, my point stands: if someone is using the APA style, their citations should be sorted automatically. If they're not, there's a bug in Zotero.
    • CommentAuthorjodler
    • CommentTimeApr 21st 2008
     
    I agree that it would be excremly helpful to rearrange the order of citations when adding multiple citations. Some styles might require an alphabetical order, others however allow to sort them according to importance or whatever.

    ps: I use the Microsoft Word plugin and I am not able to reorder the items when I click on "multipe sources".
    • CommentAuthortonyc2001
    • CommentTimeApr 22nd 2008 edited
     
    I have investigated this problem further and Zotero DOES sort multiple citations if they are entered as a new citation.

    However, if a single citation is changed to a multiple, or more references are added to an existing multiple citation, the additions are NOT sorted.

    I am using Zotero 1.0.3, Word plugin 1.0b3 and APA style

    (out of interest, how can I tell which version of the Word plugin I am using? I just reinstalled it to make sure I had the latest, but there must be an easier way?)

    [I have reposted this comment to a new thread in Troubleshooting, (http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/2748/word-plugin-failing-to-correctly-sort-edited-multiple-citations/) as I think this is faulty behaviour rather than a feature request]
    • CommentAuthorjodler
    • CommentTimeApr 22nd 2008
     
    I absolutely agree that the automatic sort function is important. But I also want to emphasize the significance of the ability to arrange and rearrange the order. Furthermore, at least I constantly add or delete items from citations. At the moment I have to redo the citation since I am not able to rearrange the items (the same problem occurs when I want the citation to be sorted).
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    Can't find any progress on this... would be really useful to be able to add those references automatically. I think adding/removing sources is what we realy need, sorting would follow automatically.
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    I've now found that its reasonably easy to do it by hand. I right click, toggle field codes and then type the new one in manually. Of course, it would still be nice to have this automatic. Perhaps this will be redundant in new verions of word...
    • CommentAuthorGAIL
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2010
     
    When the 'keep sources sorted' field is activated sources seem to be sorted alphabetically using the Creator column.

    Could this be changed by allowing for other columns, e.g. the column that is used for sorting anyway?
    • CommentAuthorjlharper3
    • CommentTimeFeb 6th 2010
     
    There is still no progress on being able to reorder sources in a multiple-source citation. This is rather annoying--and may prove to be a deal breaker on my using Zotero for my PhD work, since there are not a few lengthy footnotes I have to deal with. Thus far, I have to jot the names and page numbers down on paper and totally redo the citation in order to sort them at all. I would not like an automatic sorting, since my style does not require the same type of sort all the time. What I would like is a "move up/move down" command in the list. If I were a better programmer, I would tackle the problem myself, but unfortunately my abilities in dead languages far outstrip mine in computer languages.
    • CommentAuthoramicaro
    • CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010
     
    I am currently using Org Science CSL but cannot arrange multiple sources in a chronological order. I tried to tick or untick the field "keep sources sorted" but in either way it arranges them alphabetically. Any clues how I might order them chronologically?
    • CommentAuthorJames
    • CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010
     
    @ amicaro - that's a request specific to the Org Science style, which currently has no sorting for citations. This can be changed, but whether or not it should be depends on what is prescribed by Org Science style guide. I suggest you check and then modify the style yourself or request the change in the citation style section of the forum.
    • CommentAuthorversa
    • CommentTime7 days ago
     
    I wish to bring this issue up again. I agree to jlharper3 - it is annoying!

    A simple up/down command in order to arrange the items selected in the list would truly be helpful. Just the way you add or remove the selected items as multiple sources. Otherwise working with larger footnotes, like needed for a phd-thesis, is impossible.
    • CommentAuthorGAIL
    • CommentTime3 days ago
     
    The long awaited solution is given here and here (needs a bit of fumbling though).

    G.

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