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Hmm. That style does sort citations. Looks to me like this may indeed be a plugin bug (off my knowledge map, unfortunately).
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Rintze, That's interesting. So in the new processor, locales are mis-implemented, since they are set using the xml:lang attribute ... ?. It should instead be using the default-locale attribute ... ? Odd that no one called me to account over this…
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Searching the forums will turn up other threads on this issue, including this one, which suggests that this might be an issue that crops up in citation-number styles that do not provide for the sorting of citations before they are rendered: http:…
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jonEP, At the citation processor level, the weather report says "pretty far along". There is now code in the processor to handle markup, which works on some sample data; but it's not quite robust, there are some things that it won't handle correct…
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@delenca, From the thread, it looks like Bruce offered to fix the Science style once someone confirmed the rule with a link or a quote from their guidelines, but that's not yet been posted. The right way to go about this would be to deal with publ…
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This is not currently possible, but it's coming. The plan is to allow users (by some means) to mark off a title within a title not as "italic", but as "title". This will play nice with other styles that might require the same text to be enclosed i…
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According to the spec, this is supposed to work: This works in the new processor (yay), I'm pretty sure it works fine with the current one as well.
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It's not here yet, but this should work correctly in the new CSL processor (the bit that does citation formatting). Here's a sample: http://bitbucket.org/fbennett/citeproc-js/src/tip/tests/std/humans/name_MixedFormatsInitialSortOrderAllWithDecor…
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Re proper quotes, the tests are HTML, quotes are expressed as entities. The tests should be kept in single files. It would be annoying to have to scratch around in parallel filesystem hierarchies when writing, editing or interpreting tests (I've w…
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I removed the json area from version control back when they were housed with citeproc-js, then added it back because Sean ran into encoding issues on the Mac, the source of which was initially unclear. That has been sorted, plus the grinder is now …
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Bruce, Indeed. First I've heard of this. I'll fix the code when I see the tests. EDIT: I also see that there ... seems to be no British English locale yet.
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@jmnc, Hi, I'm (another user and) working on a new citation formatting module (CSL processor) for Zotero. I'm not sure about the existing processor, but I'd be very interested to learn how quotes and punctuation should be handled. Currently, my o…
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I'll be quiet now. :) PS: I don't want to get into a flame war about this, it's not that big a deal. If someone (another monkey at the typewriter, to borrow noksagt's phrase) undertakes tighter integration between CSL and LaTeX, that would certai…
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This is probably something to approach with a good deal of caution. The direct source-text-to-typesetting design of TeX means that the system and any supporting utilities must function as a perfectly tuned monolith. On the positive side, the types…
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@komrade, this is really helpful! Looking back over earlier discussions, I was reminded that the minimal (by-cite) disambiguation algorithm had in fact been specifically requested by a user. It's a relief to know that others also think that is sen…
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@komrade. There is a standard format for processor tests that we can use to build the list you need. Inspired by your plunge into the style guides, I'll set up a set of tests this evening. Then when we decide which behaviors are needed, we can ju…
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In the Chicago Manual of Style, initials are added to in-text keys to discriminate authors. So this appears to follow the same logic as APA, but without the restriction to primary author. From 16.108 of the CMS online: Where two or more works by d…
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komrade, Great, and that's one confirmed. Two (and maybe more?) to go! I'll stick a link back to your post from the thread where I'm trying to get all this stuff under one roof.
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komrade confirms that the APA rule is about discriminating authors, not cites, here.
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There are two threads to the discussion here, I think. One is the problem of normalizing names in Zotero, and that's probably best left as an issue to sort out in Zotero proper, through batch editing or introducing some sort of identity mechanism. …
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@komrade, Thanks for raising this. In the new CSL processor, I would like disambiguation to work as smoothly and reliably as possible, and I need all the clarity I can get at this stage. Setting aside the current behavior in Zotero, I would like …
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I would like to confirm Nestor's example with someone who has access to the APA style guide. Is it correct that this style requires that the author initial be added where there are two authors with the same surname, even if the year of publication …
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Glad to hear the image has cleared up. In the style file apa.csl, the sort keys are for author, then date. The titles should be coming out in the order that they are cited in the document, and that looks like what's happening (from the order of th…
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@svobomir, I'm curious about this, and would like to prepare a test for the new CSL processor, to be sure that it behaves correctly. Could you post the plain text of a series of bibliography entries that show the bad behavior, and of the series c…
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turkeyphant, As Bruce says, sectioned bibliographies are a known need, along with inline markup, improved context awareness, mixed document/citation inclusions, hierarchical relations ... both Zotero and CSL are young, and things do take time to im…
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@komrade, Subsequent listings of the same author (or authors) should have "three successive “em” dashes" i.e. "———" instead of the author. This is supported in CSL by the slightly teutonic option "subsequent-author-substitute" (inhale). I've just a…
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@komrade, I've made a change to the SVN repository version of the style that should fix this (it was using a prefix on year dates, plus a space to join it with the author). Haven't tested, but it should work better now. The SVN is at: https://w…
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Splendid. Couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of people.
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I'm curious how this would look on the page. Found the APL site, but wasn't able to locate any style guidelines. http://apl.aip.org/ If anyone has a more specific url, feel free to add it to this thread.
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ox, Offhand this looks like something not supported in current Zotero. With a six-day horizon, you're probably best off hand editing things to produce the results you're after. Beyond that, it's not clear what logic lies behind your example. In …