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@brazuca: There will be some backward-incompatible changes, but the language designers plan an automated upgrade of styles in the repository. You should be able to just carry on working.
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@dda-gre, If you're online now, we might give this service a try: http://www.jetbytes.com/ You need to keep the page open in your browser with your file queued for upload, and post the link here. I'll click through and pick up the file.
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@brazuca, Yes, this will certainly be supported! Work on an upgrade of the CSL specification from version 0.8 to 1.0 is near completion, with the target for completion just two weeks away. It will be accompanied by a new CSL processor that will s…
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@adamsmith: Gyrk. Conversing about disambiguation issues is like riding a rollercoaster blindfolded. Without a seatbelt. Wheeee ... Umm. For brazuca's case and that example, that's right. In the specific style referenced by dda-gre, disabling …
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dda-gre, That should work okay in the current processor, actually. I checked the American Geophysical Union style file in the repository, though, and it has an error (well, an infelicity) that is probably messing things up. About three-quarters o…
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Can't speak for when the new processor will come out in Zotero, but as adamsmith says, work is proceeding apace. The processor itself won't do anything exceptional with dates, though; things will work pretty much the way they do now, although there…
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@brazuca, I messed up with my earlier suggestion. I've fixed it now; please take a look at the sample code and explanation above, and see if that doesn't get things running for you. Iniitals are slightly tricky in CSL: you need to ask for the long…
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@adamsmith, Did you run your change past a validator? Some other styles use this combination, and it should work. There are a couple of possible gotchas. It goes on name (not names), and takes "first" or "all" as arguments (not "true"): EDIT:…
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The main thread on this idea appears to be here. There has certainly been some positive discussion about this, it seems now mainly to be a matter of available developer time and priorities.
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There's a slight glitch to be sorted out on CSL-side for this item. It seems that "page-range" and "page-first" appear in the schema as locator terms, not as variables. In Zotero-speak, that would mean that these terms would turn up in the pull-do…
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peter, I haven't looked at the style, but somewhere in there (maybe in several places) you should find an attribute sayingname-as-sort-order="first" Change the offending items to: name-as-sort-order="all"
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Just a quick note to report that I've pushed the jalopy up the hill a couple of times, and concluded that Bruce is right; there doesn't seem to be a smooth or sensible way to automate this, at least at present.
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Configurable punctuation placement has been approved for CSL 1.0, and has been implemented in the bench-test version of the new CSL processor. Here are three test fixtures used to check the functionality: Punctuation in quotes false Punctuation in…
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Also what Bruce just said. Multiple citations will come out looking very odd with the change above. But if you're curious about the effects it will produce, there's no harm in experimenting. It's all part of the learning curve. No warranty inclu…
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Haven't tested, but in the citation area, you could try changing this: to this: Something like that, anyway.
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Less work to implement than to discuss, sorry.
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Parens in the main document text are out of bounds obviously, but for parens in the user-supplied cite prefix and cite suffix fields, this is trivial to implement -- it can be addressed in citeproc-js with two lines of configuration code. It has no…
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This sounds like a bug that I worked through back in January. Here's the ticket for the patch: http://www.zotero.org/trac/ticket/1306 I don't know when it's likely to find its way into Zotero, but with this patch applied, I had no problems highli…
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Can we start from the beginning and ask: why are you putting a complete (note?) citation in parenthesis to begin with? In my experience, those kinds of citations are typically sans parens. Not to be stubborn or anything, but the users posting to the…
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Multilingual layering will be another exciting can of worms to tackle, but I don't think we need to worry about it here. This one just boils down to three possible choices for a delimiter: force-colon, force-period, or use-original.
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@Dan: That's a neat heuristic, and should greatly reduce the number of failures. I don't think we can put all of our weight on it, though. Two works might have the same main title, and be distinguished by using the subtitle, or some of its buzzwor…
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MG6, Thanks for this additional info. There seem to be journals out there that require the title/subtitle delimiter to be localized. One of the devs wrote in 2007: (And the examples and guides I've seen keep the title-separating punctuation consi…
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felwert, We're all keen to see title/subtitle correctly supported for German publications; the question is just how best to go about it. As Bruce points out, some pretty sweeping changes would be necessary to split titles into two fields, and then…
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jhy001, Thanks for this reference, I see this should be bumped up the priority list. In-field markup with flip-flop functionality is on the todo list for the new Zotero CSL citation formatter. We will already need support for quotes, and mixing i…
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This is a common question, the answer to which is "no". For more info, here are some links to other forum threads on the same topic: http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/3955/ http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/4061/ http://forums.zotero.org/discu…
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The current processor is slated to be replaced in due course (there's no fixed timetable, but within the calendar year seems a likely horizon). Disambiguation code is extremely complex and tricky to manage, and because programmer time is limited, t…
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I think the current processor always includes the year of publication in the comparison, even if it doesn't print in the short form. But there is an explicit test for a case similar to ours in the test suite for the new processor, which shows that …
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Daniel, For citations after the first citation (which is a fullnote) subsequent citations are simply "author, page(s)" (without the quotes!), unless the author has multiple entries in the bibliography in which case it is "author, title, page(s)". I …
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mgrowhoski, Regardless of what happens with user-configurable switches in the Zotero CSL processor, you would still need to create a separate style to replace ibid with the specific combination of last name+short title with particular formatting ch…
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Interesting! Thanks again for this careful feedback. I'm not sure of the precise behaviour of current Zotero, but In the new processor (if I understand and recall my own code correctly), given names or initials will be added only to authors that p…
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