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Looks like it's not the use of a footnote, but just the fact that the source item is cited more than once. Running the style under Open Office, with an item with four authors, I'm getting one name + et al. for the first reference, and all four name…
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Can't say for sure, but this sounds like it might be a problem with your custom style. Can you post the CSL as a public gist, and post the link for it back here? http://gist.github.com/ (EDIT: Just to be sure, I checked this in Zotero 2.0 with th…
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Gracile, CRDP Paris 1 et autres, Please take a look at the following test, which exercises "parallel collapsing" functionality in the new processor. http://bitbucket.org/fbennett/citeproc-js/src/tip/tests/fixtures/local/parallel_FrenchCaseAndCom…
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The code was checked in by Dan Stillman, based on a submission from another contributor (first name Ben). I was only the messenger -- very glad to hear it's working for you though!
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It's very well hidden; you actually need to create the option itself in Firefox. Open the url: "about:config", right-click in the listing, select New -> Boolean, and create an option entry like this: extensions.zotero.debugShowDuplicates Set i…
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CRDP Paris 1, The issue with the "title" variable is that we have two sets of jurisdictions, or domains (common law and civil law) with very different citation formats. The formats are shaped to fit the organization and function of resources in ea…
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Gracile, No problem. I've gotten basic collapsing working with civil law cites, and will look into second-level collapsing of items with identical container-title and volume over the next couple of days. Looks like it's going to work.
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Bruce, I've added code to citeproc-js, for use in style development, that allows CSL fields not provided on an application (Zotero) item to be parsed out of the "note" variable. It's a hack, and perhaps should be disabled by default, but it may he…
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One further questiion. If we distinguish between common law and civil law sources by setting a "Case Name" only on the former, and setting only "Short Title" (optionally) on the latter, we can get cites from both domains to format correctly with a s…
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This would be really sweet.
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I've worked through some small processor-related issues in Zotero 2.1a1, and fixed some minor bugs in the processor, and I think I'm nearly ready to produce a style and a set of item examples that demonstrates "parallel case comments". Before setti…
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I'm not sure I understand the problem correctly, but have you tried clicking on the "Export" tab in Preferences? There's a selection for "Default Output Format" there that might be what you're looking for.
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I see two different styles of citation in the examples. In Gracile's sample, a journal name occurs only once (it "collapses"), and only the page and author details are given for subsequent references to the same journal and volume. In CRDP Paris 1…
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In the thread that adamsmith links, we went 'round and 'round looking for an automagic solution and came up dry, unfortunately. Handling it with a tick-box and processor option is an interesting idea, though. If you can convince the Zotero developer…
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Rats. :)
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Interesting! What do other style guides say? If the substitution is generally meant to catch only the first name in the list, it could be set up to work that way. But at the moment, we match the whole list, like the current processor. If both b…
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The parallel cites mechanism is a rebel experiment of my own. It's not part of the CSL specification, and it's intentionally designed to work without any hints in the input data. I went that route because the signals from Bibo (which is the basis o…
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I'm not sure I understand the French side of the thread, but a note just in case. With parallel citations, the processor does not actively pull in related citations; the user adds the references themselves one by one, and the processor collapses th…
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Parallel citations is implemented only in Zotero 2.1, which is currently in the early alpha phase of development. Some things (citing with a plugin from a shared library) don't work at all yet, and because the code has not been extensively tested, …
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Parallel citation collapsing in the new processor just happens when it's needed. The conditions (currently) are that the items, as rendered, differ only in the volume, number, journal, and page of the reference; everything else (title/case name, da…
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I get the same behavior (search is empty when "Collection is" is set to a collection that has items with PDF attachments, and "Attachment File Type is" is set to PDF). Here is the SQL query that produces the empty list: SELECT itemID FROM item…
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If you don't have access to the original source, you would have to use indirect citation as a fallback. Also, if the argument in the main text is based on the selection and arrangement of quotations or references in a particular source, you would n…
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Gracile, Thanks for all of these details! From this ...If each of these comments were different "journal articles" in zotero UI, they will have titles: -B. Mathieu, Le principe de sécurité juridique entre au Conseil d'Etat, AJDA, 2006, p. 841.... i…
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As you can see, it's not real "parallel citation", even if the court decision is almost always published at the end of the comments.Ah, I see that I misread. You mean that the actual comment or note is followed by the full text of the case. Got it.…
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Thanks for this info. A few further questions: Concerning note, point de vue, chron., etc., are these designations made in the source itself, or are they descriptive terms added by the citiing author (i.e. are they part of the cite itself, or are…
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The sectioning method described by Gracile is also used for Japanese official case reports. The idea is (or was) that reported cases for all courts be distributed early as a single bound volume (once per month, say), to distribute the information q…
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I've been watching this thread with interest. For Zotero 2.1, the citation processsor has the ability to "collapse" parallel citations in a way suitable for common law jurisdictions: Beck v. Beck, 1999 ME 110, ¶ 6, 733 A.2d 981, 983. In the cite…
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Proper Bluebook support requires some features that will be available in Zotero 2.1. There is discussion on law-related issues here: http://groups.google.com/group/zotero-legal
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This will work correctly in Zotero 2.1, which is now in development.
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Current CSL also has an "original-date" field in the schema, but as adamsmith notes, it would need to be filled with data from the Zotero database. Changes to the Zotero database happen only at long intervals (for unavoidable technical reasons), bu…
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