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Do I now have to worry about stray citations left frozen amongst the hundreds of citations in my documents?Until it's fixed. It's worked this way for as long as I can remember though, it's not something new.
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@coisativo: That's great to hear. This behavior seems to be unintended -- it looks like the code is designed to behave as you orignally expected. I'll file a ticket, and we'll see what the core developers think.
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Hold that thought. I started the multilingual client to check whether I remembered correctly, and found (a) that the editor is not working in multilingual, and (b) that judging from the code, I may have been wrong about the citation freezing when th…
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@coisativo: If you leave the Show Editor window open, it will freeze the form of the citation, even if you haven't changed anything. If you close the window after looking, the citation will become dynamic again.
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@ChristianR: Have you validated your style? http://www.zotero.org/support/dev/citation_styles
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A mechanism for passing tags through to the CSL processor, with an interface to include or exclude items based on their tags would solve this without touching item field content.
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You may find this site useful. Its main purpose is to support legal and multilingual style development, but it provides an explanation of how the various moving parts of the citation system fit together, which may be of general interest.
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I am happy to report that an anonymous donor has offered to provide a copy of the style guide. So this rather odd bottleneck has been cleared.
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Just a followup to indicate that my note above, inviting offers to make me a gift of a paper copy of the Bluebook 19th edition, is not a joke. I have been explicitly warned off of the Bluebook Online by the editors. I agree that this is a silly and…
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I stand corrected.
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Thanks for reporting. I'll take a look soon. The official CSL position is that "sub verbo" is simply not allowed in the current version of the schema. I believe that I have worked around the limitation in the processor, but I will check with the lat…
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Thanks. In other news, I just received a reply to a query I put to the Harvard Law Review Ass'n concerning the Bluebook Online service (to which I do not subscribe). Their position is that the EULA prohibits reference to the online content for the …
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Thanks for your helpful and encouraging feedback. Fastcase were early followers of the citeproc-js project, but I haven't heard anything from them directly. If they would be willing to share code with me, that would be great. I've put up a site wit…
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A means of marking (some) items in a matching set as confirmed non-duplicates would be useful. We'll have a lot of these in legal materials, with multiple instances of a legal decision. One approach might be to cull (all but one of) partners that a…
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@mapmaker: have you validated the style?
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The site mentioned above is now ready. It is a read-only site for disseminating information about the state of play in legal and multilingual style development, with information on the tools to be used for collaborative development. The site is a fi…
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What happens for names that are concealed by et al. (Edit: and the full form of names that may be masked by initialization or short-forming)?
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As adamsmith says, the backreference behavior needs to be coded into the style, and only the Bluebook 19th ed. (aka bluebook-19th.csl) style makes use of it. That new variant is a complete rewrite of the style, completed only fairly recently. The ot…
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No need to double-post, I've already replied on the other thread. (For the record, my surname is spelled with two t's.)
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Which style are you using?
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It is being followed, but pings are always welcome (I hadn't bookmarked this thread, but I have now). Some of this can't be handled by CSL 1.0. In particular:UN document numbersThese, and document numbers of other international organizations such a…
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[T]he current design essentially treats output as a presentational string.That's not entirely accurate [please apply English rules of intepretation]. The relevant discussion can be found in this thread on zotero-dev, and in this one on xbiblio-devel…
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The alternative would be for a custom style to use some arbitrary non-HTML markup that Zotpress turned into valid HTML, but that's getting pretty hacky. This isn't really limited to CSS. This is about proper semantic structure. ... much like what Da…
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I agree that HTML is important, and that the potential for automated citation tools like citeproc-js to feed on and reinforce linked data is an exciting prospect. If you like, I'll happily retract the "only relevant to HTML" throwaway comment. It's …
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You've got a point there. I suppose that field-level wrappers in HTML output might come along eventually, if we make a push for RDFa support. But I'd expect style selection in the API to come well before that. It would be pretty complicated to imple…
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shortTitle is passed by Zotero and used internally by citeproc-js, but note that its name may change in future. (Any change will be documented in the specification, but just in case.)
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Preparing a custom style is the way to go. I don't think we'll be applying classes to HTML output below the block level in the foreseeable future.
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That's not normal. Do you get this in a fresh document? If not, try the steps for debugging broken documents. If so, which version of Zotero, and what platform (Mac, Windows etc.)?
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The translators in MLZ may not be updating as they do in the mainstream version. I am about to merge a backlog of patches. If translator updates still seem not to work, I'll try to look into the cause. In the meantime, you might try copying in the r…
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The Bluebook situation does need some housecleaning. Among the available options, as far as I know the only version being actively maintained is bluebook-19th.csl. It's still in draft, but worth giving a try; if you notice things that aren't right w…
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