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FYI, there's been some discussion of this on the dev list. The problem has been identified, and I expect it will get fixed.
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That's not a style problem, though; it's a bug. From what I can tell, the only difference is 1) page label is capitalized, and has a space after it, and b) edition label is capitalized. Otherwise they seems exactly the same. Perhaps we ought to ca…
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OK, I've added the new style to the repo, but it's not done. I've only had time to address a. I'm looking into some schema changes to better address this issue and number c, and I'll get to this later. Question: are examples like b saying that whil…
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OK, tell me exactly what you need, in the most concise possible language: 1. title of the new style 2. the style on which it should be based 3. how it differs from 2 If I understand you right, 3 should have very trivial differences; perhaps only i…
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So maybe a special German Harvard style has to be programmed. I don't know if I can manage it to learn about that in a short time. All you would do is take the style that is closest to what you need, and create a new one (with different title, ID, e…
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OK, I fixed your problems 1 and 2. I'm not seeing your problem 3, and don't understand the indentation issue, nor exactly how to deal with the subsequent citations (right now it will just print the author). So I've mostly left these alone. Feel t…
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QwertyFive: I really hope the group here isn't just piling on my suggestions as immediately bad because I have somehow offended their faith in the semantic web. What is bothersome about your arguments here is that you consistently claim to be champi…
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gzellmer: There are thousands of different styles, and even though they may all be based on a few key styles, they are all slightly different. Which is why this discussion is so long. This is true, but should be a temporary state of affairs. See ear…
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QwertyFive: The benefits of structural encoding (what it means) over presentational (what it looks like) are widely known, and hardly theoretical or technical. The web as you experience it in 2008 is largely a product of this revolution, which …
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However, requiring the user to do more than press the "b" icon or press "ctrl+b" is asking too much when everyone has been trained in this fashion since day one. Kind of ironic, eh? Many people here have PhDs, but they can't learn? ;-) My impressio…
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Note that they aren't clamoring for a new technical language to learn, only the ability to bold their text. So clearly, many people believe that bolding and italicizing aren't "meaningless." Just because 50 or 100 people ask for it doesn't mean that…
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mark: But in this example, why does Zotero need to set the styling at all? If the point is that your style has neither numbers nor bullets, shouldn't you be worrying about that style rather than Zotero? This is more about integration with editors, w…
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Note taking in Zotero is limited now to extremely bare bones basic text - RTF isn't even possible. There has been talk of a mark up system but this is not really acceptable because it will be too technical to some, and mark up systems aren't that gr…
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How is there s problem of ambiguity? In the separate documents, yes, but when you assemble them those should get resolved.
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I'll take a look at this later today, and fix the issues you noted. For the record, I know the style is kind of weak. I just never had much time to work on it. But if you can itemize the improvements it needs such that I can add them without though…
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No. What you need in this case is essentially a style-specific algorithm for generating a citation key. CSL doesn't really care about that; it just says "put the key here" (using the "label" variable). This is an interesting issue, though. There's …
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I doubt attachments play any role in performance. As Dan has mentioned before (search forums please), one issue that does impact performance is that sorting happens in Javascript, rather than the database. This is not Zotero's fault. As for the plu…
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Obviously this is a problem that needs to be fixed, but in the meantime, would it be feasible to split the chapters into separate files, and only assemble them at the very end?
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Dan: We are coding the 2.0 components as fast as we can ... And where is that code? Design discussions? Documentation? bbouling: Will the 2.0 version have the feature to create and manage our own citation styles? See here. As soon as I have help …
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I'm something of a markup fascist myself and so in general agree with mark's desire to have cleaner output. Also, Dan, this is the same exact issue I've mentioned before about the lack of style information (e.g. tagging) in word processors. Howeve…
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I think it's fair to say that if the Zotero team didn't agree with you, they'd not have spent as much effort as they have on the local client. Local and web-based each have advantages and disadvantages. The two together is ideal.
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Sorry, but we're not interested in using RDF as the main datastore. Zotero makes heavy use of SQL (and will use the additional SQLite features available in Firefox 3). This may be a little crazy, but ... I've been wondering about the possibility of…
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kieren: yeah, what Dan said. I'd really like to see modules/libraries for this in different languages, and so really like your idea to be able to be able to drop it into a Catalyst project. But as Dan said that code is basically responsible for re…
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From a high-level view, think of the process as involving encoding the citation, which is basically a field that contains a reference to the citation source [note: right now, Zotero does this in a way that is really problematic in that the pointer i…
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No problem :-)
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You might have a read through this thread first, since I have a feeling it has implications for you as well.
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Gitty K: I'm the author of CSL, and a professional scholar. Dan Cohen overseas Zotero, and is also a professional scholar. We're intimately aware of the real-world constraints of academic research nd publishing, including the insanity that is journa…
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Helga, yes, I understand your frustration. It's clear that Babelzilla isn't working as well as intended. I wonder if perhaps the Zotero developers could come up with a better, more clear, way to resolve the problems with translations?
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On a more practical note, I've signed up for team Zotero for a lit-software competition: http://citefest.pbwiki.com/ and while I think Zotero stands up well on most accounts, this is one 'challenge' where we'll probably lose big time. Not really. Th…
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Dan -- that seems to be the problem on my end. The default was not set. Upon setting it, I could d-n-d.