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I'm not saying we can't do what you suggest. I'm saying we need to consider different options, and weigh the pros and cons of each. So if you can find the time, I'd appreciate if you could consider posting a formal proposal with both options, pref…
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I've just checked in the changes that nas made, though I didn't really have a chance to do much with it, nor to test it. Also, there was one major question mark I had (namely whether the 'source' macro is really needed), which is included as a com…
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@dmk: my impulse is that this is getting into too-complicated territory. Perhaps an analogous issue is et al handling, which we configure with simple options? Could you imagine one or more options that would work? As for SQL, I wouldn't worry about…
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I'll need to think more on the sorting issue. On the names, it probably needs to be better documented. Re: Also, won't whether the first or last name is used as the principal sorting text depend on the author, not the format - i.e., you could have …
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You can turn off citation sorting. I forget the details, but poke around a bit and you'll find it.
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I don't believe CSL has such a type. Forget about the macro and the conditional and the type and just try putting the "version" call into the main layout template. If that doesn't work, there's a missing mapping in Zotero.
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This looks indeed like a bug and should be fixed. But, OTOH, there's no reason you can't manually sort the citations. I know it's not ideal, but I don't think it's a deal breaker, and I don't think it should stop you from submitting the styles. Ind…
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I think that the one thing that is missing from CSL to sort this appropriately is an "if" check on the number of authors. Consider that one sorts like: So the question is, how to add a second key that is "number of authors"? We could just a…
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What kind of a sadist came up with these sorting rules??? You're correct: CSL does not support this, nor I imagine does any other similar styling format (except maybe BibTeX's BST, where you'd have to program the sorting rules). The question is: c…
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Excellent. Yes, Endnote encourages some bad practices WRT to data entry (custom fields and such among them) that sometimes make it difficult to get that data out. I've had the same experience, and also found periodic data-cleaning was both necessar…
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Right, in that thread, I'm saying the same thing I'm saying here, which is that I don't think Tim is really citing a collection. Rather, he's wanting to have a section of a bibliography that lists collections, and their associated items. I've seen s…
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Re: National Archives of Australia: A1, General correspondence (Department of the Interior) 1913/4567, 'Building of Canberra', 1913-1925 1910/5987, 'Mount Stromlo Observatory', 1910-1936 1928/89922, 'Australian Institute of Anatomy', 1928-1945 I d…
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Both changes could be easily accomplished if there is an "archival collection" item type Except it'd be a "collection" (rather than "item") type; right?
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Will let Dan comment on the first bit, but from the styling perspective of CSL (which is not specific to Zotero) ... If this was implemented, how would the styling work? Could a citation of a document pull in the title of the series that contains it…
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Susan: note Dan's request for you to post the RIS version. BibTeX isn't really designed for this (hence the "misc" type).
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We can happily agree to disagree here. Let me give you a practical example on exactly this issue: reports. If the UN publishes a report and it's available on the web (as it almost always is these days), then I think it bad form not to include the …
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The organizations that issue styles change them from time to time and it sometimes takes months for the changes to make it into Zotero (like the APA's electronic sources guidelines change this summer). The same is true for all the commercial solutio…
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@nas: can you send it to me off-forum? I'll take a look and clean it up where appropriate.
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The handling of URL's is the weakest bit I think. To be honest I'm not sure what is best to do here. But I do think that the traditional citation details are preferable for a printed form and that the URL should only appear when its needed. By defau…
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Am in a hurry, but the instruction above is for OOo.
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Looks good, except for the 'webpage' conditional. If I cite a report or an article that's published at a URL, are you saying that IEEE does not want that URL? Also, what happens if you remove that 'entry-spacing' option altogether?
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@noksagt: agree, but just emphasizes that this needs fixing. There's no reason a generic "Document" type couldn't suffice if it was designed right.
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Saving a web page as single file. I don't speak for Zotero, but In proposing a feature request like this, you might step back and specify more broadly what the problem is you believe will be solved by your proposed solution (in ways different than t…
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- there was a document style for standards. Is there any reason "Document" isn't sufficient?
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Identify the style you need modified.
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Please do a search on the forums; this has come up countless times. Short version is yes.
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I don't mind if documents are available as PDFs, but I really hate when projects force people to read PDFs. The priority should be better HTML documentation in my view.
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I also want to mention something else quickly as we think about design issues: Part of the challenge here is UI. The current UI has real estate limitations that partly drive the design. But what if agents got full class UIs (also)? So imagine in …
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No, we really didn't. We started with the premise that most users will be entering at least some Western names, and having an option to enter "first" and "last" names for those both makes the UI clearer and allows for some additional autocomplete fu…
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BTW, I'll add a followup question: I'm working on an import/export model that Zotero plans to adopt. We'll use FOAF for describing people and organizations. FOAF isn't per se designed for this, but I think the solution is to encode family and given…