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bdarcus, thank you for your commentary as I sadly hurt your feelings. I wrongfully put my frustration to 'paper'. Not my feelings (am not with the Zotero team); I just want to keep the discussions civil and productive. In any case, thanks for the n…
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It is somewhat presumptuous of Z-Folks to assume that everyone is currently working with Office 08 and abandoning the ones with the 04 version. It's somewhat presumptuous of you to assume that this is the case. Avoid the commentary, please, and stic…
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@ossified65: The "indents" issue you note is I think much more complicated, and likely not supported by CSL at the moment. If I understand correctly, if you have multiple entries from the same author, then the author is dropped from all but the firs…
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But, should Zotero be changing user-entered text? If it should, there's a need for a mapping for the three possible kinds of quote mark - call them open, basic, close. Then if the text uses basic quotes, should they be reformatted, given the style w…
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I believe there used to be such a dedicated type, but my opinion has always been that this doesn't really make much sense. A webpage is just an HTML "document" that happens to be available over HTTP. If you are dealing with a New York Times article …
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I'd agree with those saying that quote type doesn't track locale. But I think there is an interaction with the separator inside / outside quotes issue discussed elsewhere, which does seem to be reliably locale-dependent. Correct. We added the quotes…
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I think Bruce means to ask whether (in the case of English) this is an EN_GB vs EN_US issue ... Correct; that is what I'm asking.
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I'm also curious when 1.5 might be stable enough for those of us who are interested in trying it, but otherwise too busy to bother with managing multiple profiles. Are we there yet?
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My question was: is this really a CSL limitation, or an implementation problem? Put simply, is this an issue about locale-specific handling of quotation, or not (and therefore we would expect some styles for language X to use single quotes, and othe…
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3. A button for small caps (this is used in my field to indicate a new technical term; right now I'm inserting them manually in the HTML, which is rather tedious) I think this is a perfect example of where adding the ability to have custom semantic …
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A note on this: And yes, we would like to hack it to support some sort of locators, but we haven't gotten that far yet. One possibility to consider for embedding citation metadata in the content is to use RDFa.
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For the record, I added this comment over there: In principle I like this idea. The current support in OOo is woefully inadequate, and Zotero provides much of what we would have liked to do with the OOo bibliographic project. But, I'd prefer that a…
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I'd also think that the default should be to include the URLs.
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Just to put a fine point on it, the Endnote makers have done more than passively "asserted"; they have sued GMU to stop distribution of Zotero, and for $10 million in claimed lost revenue, over exactly this issue. As Rick says, I'm sure people here …
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I have been using Zotero for since early this year and have hundreds of references in my PhD. That Zotero would leave its natural partner in openoffice and its users adrift is incomprehensible. With all due respect, if the stability of your document…
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All good points (but, rintze, the fact that most of those 1000+ styles are referenced supports my larger point; there's not really as much variation as we tend to think). Part of the reason to have a rich metadata section of the styles is precisely …
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With conditionals styles can already be written so that journal articles for which the pages-field is empty are listed as "in press" ... This doesn't seem a very reliable way to deduce status. What about an online and HTML-only article that will nev…
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It is unclear if you are making a feature request or are advising other users how to handle not having direct support for their types. The poster is suggesting that the longtime limitations in the "Document" type in Zotero be fixed now so that it's …
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I also think we all need to get away from the idea that one project does everything. What we need to work towards is fully interoperable tools.
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@hwitt: I agree with noksagt; what you're asking is not at all clear.
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I have been working with Zotero for a while, but my institute now started to use Endnote, so everybody is encouraged to go for it. I strongly suggest your institute reconsider this move. Zotero is arguably a superior solution now, but it's capabilit…
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Sounds good Dan. While inline quotes are nice to have, blockquotes are in my view more important, so I think fine to start there. BTW, I know q isn't always available in these interfaces, but I did notice that GMail includes it by default.
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@sean: I was just looking through a commit log of these changes. If I read them right, the text areas will now add support for HTML tags like b, i (blah), em, strong, blockquotes, links, and lists. But I did not notice inline quotes, which seems an …
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This tarnishes the reputation of Zotero as a responsible academic project.... Do the developpers understand that we don't use Zotero as a gadget, but as a tool for WORK ? I realize you're frustrated, but this is out of line. Please stop this sort o…
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Yes, I'm Bruce. Re: a style editor, yes, it's been discussed a lot. There's a working version that someone here came up with here, and I've also written about some ideas.
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I'm really busy these days. But one thing that you could do that would be really helpful is to find the existing style that most closely matches the ones you want, and then itemize exactly the differences. That's more time-consuming than the actual …
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As Scot says, this probably isn't so straightforward technically, and it's really not realistic to expect the Zotero team to be supporting every possible note-taking (or, say, outlining) application out there. I also agree with Scot that it might …
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I have been watching these discussions for some time now and I'm still very disturbed about Zotero's claim to be a note taking tool for historians. If I write an article, I'm expected to put a page number for every single reference I make. If Zotero…
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That's just not true--child items are not sortable independently of parents, but parents are certainly sortable--in the middle column, by author, date, title, etc. Ok, true. But I meant "sorted" in the sense of the user being able to manually order …
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@zmg: I know there are people who like the idea of outlining in Zotero. And you explain well what that might look like from a user perspective. My brain is a little fuzzy today, so maybe I'm just misunderstanding, but ... I still stand by my skept…