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                Use "short title" ;-) Whether and how it gets printed in the citations is style-dependent.
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                @rain: if you don't hear from loso, at this point, it's often better to find an existing style in the repository, and modify that.
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                "Enter" where?
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                I ran into a problem trying to work with a document that used a citation style that I had modified to fit the particulars of a journal's style. Don't do this. If you need changes to a style, create a new one (with a new id), and submit it to the Z…
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                FWIW, I've been working through how the Zotero ought to be modeled (in RDF, but this is really more general than that). My argument is that you split the zotero item (the user data) from the source that it refers to. With with that approach, you can…
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                Bruce, Word outlines are often used not really as 'documents', but as means of structured note-taking. It's the fluent access to structure that keeps people using them, not the sequential aspect, I think. Ahem; I know why people use outliners. I j…
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                But a document is a fundamentally ordered sequence of content, so it makes sense to represent that as such (in Word). Things like priority are not fundamentally ordered; ordering is one convention by which this is denoted, but not the only one. Th…
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                What noksagt said mostly, particularly on not worrying too much about not seeing your types in the styles. There are other ways to address specific problems. Also, on the data model, you might want to take a look at BIBO, which is where Zotero is h…
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                @CB: I wouldn't read into my view a preference for esoteric data modeling over human factors. I think this is a rather classic case of a false dichotomy. Adding order to a UI adds complexity, both to the underlying code and data, and to the user e…
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                But there are other, better, ways to do that. For example, you could have tags like "to read" and then priority tags like "priority 1" and so forth. You could then set up automatic collections like "read now" and "read later" and "read before I die.…
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                Yes, I know apple mentioned "ordered. " But whenever someone says that I feel the unavoidable impulse to ask "why?" I think (manual) ordering is seriously overrated for this stuff. I intend to use Zotero's group stuff for a seminar in the Fall, and…
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                You on the BIBO list, Dan?
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                I think reading list functionality is perfectly well covered with the existing collections functionality.
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                http://www.zotero.org/support/dev/csl_syntax_summary#authors
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                You need to sort on an author macro, which includes the proper substitution logic. Most styles have this, so take a look.
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                I wasn't "concerned"; just confused ;-) Thanks for clarifying.
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                I don't usually write in complete sentences and rarely ever in full paragraphs, but I keep common things together in one chunk and separate the chunks with white space. So maybe you ought to be a little creative about how you think about this? For e…
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                I'm using RDF in part b/c it's the clearest way to communicate the data issues here (b/c of the focus on URIs to establish identity). My example was confusing, since I meant to have a zotero URI (the bookmark-like resource), and link to the origina…
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                This is an open data effort, based on open conversion code. So if you see problems or have suggestions, it'd be good to bring them up at the dataincubator group.
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                As Fred said on the BIBO list, it'd probably be helpful to put this all together; to show the proposed encodings in a little more detail. Let's take something from today's New York Times. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/27/business/27auto.html You w…
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                But what's an "item" and how does it relate to notes, etc.? Also, why does a group "item" have a different identity? Because it can be collaboratively edited?
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                Not supported ATM, since it's not totally straightforward (there are different algorithms for number collapsing).
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                OK, I created this page, and will post a note on the BIBO list: https://www.zotero.org/trac/wiki/URIScheme Dan, please adjust/comment as you see fit.
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                I'm not sure; we could have all three. But some coordination would be valuable.
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                What do you mean by "journal metadata do not have abbreviations"?
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                http://periodicals.dataincubator.org Hopefully should be moving towards a more stable home soon. At that point, zotero ought to integrate this.
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                @scot: I missed this earlier. No, I'm not convinced, since you haven't solved the (very real) problems I've outlined. Note, though, I posted some thoughts about this recently on zotero-dev. @andym_77: the issue isn't CSL, which already supports thi…
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                Sure; I see no problem adding new identifiers.
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                I think we can have our cake and eat it too. The approach we've taken is a system that avoids relying on types for formatting, and which at its core uses fairly generic variables that can be used in many different content types. Adding new variables…
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                What you find "irritating" is a feature. And if you search on the forums, you'll see there have been many threads about using collections vs. tags for organization. Suffice to say both are valuable for different purposes.
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