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Is there any way to allow nested references within the bibliography in the sense of: Author (YYYY). "Some chapter." In Editor (ed.), pp. PP-PP. (Omitting the title of the work, the publisher/place, etc.) I'm asking more out of curiosity than immed…
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As a makeshift solution to the issues above, if you wish to keep the capitalization difference but not have the disambiguating letters (2018a, etc.) also capitalized, then the following code works fairly well: …
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So consistency over precision is a reasonable approach? That sounds acceptable to me. I am citing works written in dozens of languages, and of course with authors' names from many more. (Some also have shifted away from traditional practice and 'in…
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Not quite the same question, but following up on something @adamsmith said above: There are differences in different languages, so that for example "de" is treated literally as part of the last name in Spanish, but not in Dutch. Spanish and Portugu…
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My intention is not at all to complain about this wonderful free software. However, if we're getting into the philosophy of it: Is it really reasonable to wait 10 years for something that should be basic functionality, when it could be implemented …
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Huh. Interesting to look at, but doesn't answer why it's sorting the way it is (that data doesn't seem to end up in the Word field codes). What I see for a date is like this: "issued":{"literal":"forthcoming"} So what seems to be happening is that…
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Interesting! That also seems to work for different non-date text entered in the date field. That means that somehow the parser actually does know what's being used as a date ("forthcoming"≠"in press"!), even though it can't sort based on it. How odd…
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Thanks for clarifying what is going on. Hm. You're not wrong. But given that Zotero isn't perfect (no software is) I'd rather see flexibility left open. It's not standard use, so I'd assume 'use at my own risk', but if it's easy (e.g., sorting aft…
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Thanks. I consider these relevantly different questions, but blurring together because of Zotero's limited date-handling. Essentially they're all the same question because the answer is "no" :)
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1. "Status" is awkward to use as extra. 2. Among even the default styles, only APA and Chicago support this. Inserting text works in all styles (as far as I know). I am running into what add up to unfixable problems (really frustrating, because it'…
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What? No. It's sorting letters before numbers. That's not standard (compare ASCII, etc.). So by your definition, it would be a bug. And by mine too. (Note: I don't think this is a sorting issue, but a bug with how the dates are encoded in Zotero a…
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Actually, there appears to be a problem with this: "2018a" and "2018b" become "2018A" and "2018B", when there are multiple publications from the same author in the same year. It's somewhat bizarre that "capitalize-first" is targetting a non-initia…
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Thanks. Can this be considered a bug then? What possible reason is there for "forthcoming" (etc.) to be sorted first?
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Thanks for the reply. The problem isn't "correctness", it's that there are many standards. It's clear from the discussion here, even among those who agree that restricted input is the best approach, it is not clear which style to follow. That's not…
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I'm not sure if this is still the right place to give feedback on this (there's also: https://github.com/zotero/zotero/issues/637). If I'm in the right place, here are some thoughts: 1. I strongly disagree with restricting the possible input of th…
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Thanks! Here's an additional change that might be useful, but goes beyond the basics: https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/comment/313791/#Comment_313791 I think it's useful and fits the style, but I'm not sure if my approach is best practice (spl…
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I was wondering exactly the same thing, for the same reason. It seems possible (now?), but requires splitting the date for in-text citations and bibliography entries. Find this code: Duplicate it, making the following chang…
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Thanks. Yes, that seems workable if I want to invest some time in it. There's also an argument to keeping the exact formatting (initials, full names, etc.) from the original publication. So I'll check this out and see what seems like a good compromi…
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Fix for the duplicated type/genre problem above: Find: Replace the second line with: That will suppress the inclusion of genre for presentations. (That is, it will now only appear once, before "presented at..…
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The trickiest part is actually finding when there are inconsistencies. If all creator names were just listed from A-Z I could skim through and find what appear to be obvious variants, and then deal with those. But since sort just works on first auth…
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Thanks. I know a full (and easy) version of this would require major changes. But I wonder what can be done now, even awkwardly. Any tips for cleaning up a large number of references? Unfortunately python isn't an accessible option for me at this po…
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@bwiernik -- I understand. I didn't mean hosting a personal style, but rather adding in this option in some optional/standard way so that others could flag the citations they want to modify. But since there might be some variation (for example, some…
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@adamsmith -- OK, I will switch it to annote. @bwiernik -- that's a great idea. (Currently I'm mostly trying to prepare a single style for my dissertation which will have ~3,000 references. But I also use other styles for publications I submit-- ea…
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@adamsmith thank you. I actually was through trial and error coming up with something similar to that. I made a new variable name: "zoteroflag" (Is that OK? It seems to work!) So in the extra field, I'd write: zoteroflag: year (whatever text you w…
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The whole point would be to do it automatically when adding that reference to a bibliography, though. That is, I want Zotero to remind me that I need to update an entry manually, rather than me needing to remember it's special when I insert it. Hav…
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That's not what those events are actually called, though. Citation styles shouldn't rename events. Yes, these rare cases can be manually edited. The problem is remembering to do so. Our brains don't naturally process "the" when skimming through tex…
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Thank you. That works! Ideally, this could be optionally removed for certain entries, but that would become complicated. Mostly my concern would be reformatting my entries to add "the" and then switching to another style that would double it. Yes,…
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Depending on the style. It would cause odd things to happen when reversing first and last names in some styles, though. (I've done something similar to a paper with dozens of authors by forcing one to be "et al.", which sort of worked.)
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It would be nice if there was a way to, say, highlight a reference line in yellow for a known-to-be-problematic reference. I suppose I could preface the author's name with "***..." if I really wanted to be awkward about it. That would actually work…
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That makes sense, unfortunately. So I'll just make a judgment call about whether I'll consider the additional contributors co-authors or not, and leave it at that. Secondary question: If I did want to manually update (for this or another reason) is…