Updated Ovid
Ovid has recently updated their website and the zotero icon is now no longer appearing in the toolbar. There is no problem with other sites eg amazon / New York Times.
An example URL is
http://ovidsp.uk.ovid.com/sp-3.2.1/ovidweb.cgi?&S=FENPPDGGPEHFCJICFNDLFGBGJIAEAA00&Complete+Reference=S.sh.14|1|1
Hope this can be rectified
An example URL is
http://ovidsp.uk.ovid.com/sp-3.2.1/ovidweb.cgi?&S=FENPPDGGPEHFCJICFNDLFGBGJIAEAA00&Complete+Reference=S.sh.14|1|1
Hope this can be rectified
http://ovidsp.tx.ovid.com/sp-3.2.4b/ovidweb.cgi
Any updates on its reolution?
Clearly there must be a huge number of medical professionals, such as my self, which would find Zotero redundant if this continues not to work with our main medical literature search engine, since Ovid in all its guises seem to be the health organisations preferred option to search & access full text articles.
For several other people it has worked to lobby database vendors to provide their own translator updates (Wilson, EBSCO) - I'd encourage you to contact Ovid about that.
At a minimum, they could provide cleaner output data - you already have an export to RIS option. If at least that worked decently well that'd be a very viable workaround, but it doesn't. Partly that's because of, I believe, the type of the RIS, and partly that's because the RIS data is bad (e.g. all journal articles are marked as ELEC - i.e. electronic resource - rather than JOUR for journal.
I had wondered previously about contacted Ovid, but pessimistically assumed that due to the global enormity of the Ovid organisation any such email would quickly be lost into the virtual ether.
To that end, do you have any particular email address for a sympathetic responder at OvidSP / WoltersKluwer? Then they could be lobbied collectively by Zotero users frustrated at OvidSP apparent disconnection with Zotero?
Might it be a good idea to have a links / email address page in the Zotero forums of any other such sites that Zotero needs translators for?
Thanks again for the update and please keep up the good work team.
As adamsmith notes, OvidSP should at least improve their RIS and other metadata export functions-- not only to make Zotero support easier, but for all Ovid users who use reference management software.
I may get a chance to look at this -- if I do, I think I'll build off of their proprietary XML export format, which provides pretty much all the data we need. In any case, this won't happen today, and probably not tomorrow.
And in general I wouldn't underestimate customer service - I'd start by sending an e-mail to support@ovid.com, making clear that you're a customer from a subscribing institution and see what happens.
You can point them, if you want, to this thread as well as to the Zotero development listserv if they have any questions.
http://groups.google.com/group/zotero-dev
I am a librarian too and been hoping for a solution to this for months. I would be very interested to know what your rep told you. I did not contact mine about this yet however, wanted to see what Zotero had to say first. The RIS export trick works fine but a faster way to do it would be great.
It won't fix this, but it's a start-- it now detects items in the new Ovid, but still can't save. This is one of many cases where they've made the logic for pulling citation metadata quite obscure, so it'd take more time than I can currently volunteer to finish mucking through the details. If you do speak with an Ovid rep, please let them know that I'd be happy to work with them to find an efficient way of pulling the RIS or other standard metadata for each selected item-- they can post to http://groups.google.com/group/zotero-dev and I'll see what we can do. Since their devs wrote this system, they can probably point to, or add, a clean way to do this.
In the meantime, seeing as the database I use most is Medline, my workaround for importing individual references is going to be copying and pasting the unique identifier number into Pubmed and saving from there. I see that Pubmed's interface is updated and easier to use, so I might even switch from OvidSP to Pubmed (which is open-access anyway).
Thank you for contacting WK Health Technical Support.
There are plans to make OvidSP compatible with Zotero – this will be enabled in a future release of the platform. I’m afraid I cannot give you an exact date at this very moment, but have added your comments on the enhancement suggestion item that our development team currently have.
Do let me know if you have other questions in the meantime!
I have come across this thread as I am currently working with Ovid ATLA Religion Database + ATLAS. Indeed, it is very incovenient one has to do everything manually. There is a workaround in the form of using other databases to retrieve citations, but it is very time consuming and tedious to do it in this way. Moreover, there are entries in Ovid ATLA, which are completely unique...
Anyway, regarding the recent development reported above, do you think I could help the issue if I wrote to Ovid Support as well?
Regards
JR
This is to inform you I have written both to a contact person from my university and to Ovid. I hope it could help, at least in the longer perspective. Surely, it would make a difference, if many people wrote to Ovid, not only a couple of individuals.
Best wishes
JR
I have already gotten replies both from Ovid and the CUCC (Charles University Computer Centre). In case of Ovid, it seems they are probably willing to deal with the issue somehow, they promised to contact me again. In case of the CUCC, I have been directed to a person responsible for Ovid. I will let you know about the results as soon as I learn anything important.
Regards
JR
Thanks to everyone involved.