Upgrade StorageMultiple citation separators
Is in the csl 1.0 a possibility to have different separators in a multiple citation like "(Berard 1999; Silk 1992, 1993, 1993, 1994)". One between different authors and one between different references from the same author. I search between the citation styles but I found not that what I want. I would be very happy for any help.Thanks.
If immediate means within the next few hours, you could set up a separate Firefox profile, install the multilingual version there, move your Zotero database into it, and give it a try. The multilingual client has the latest processor installed, and it should work, although it hasn't been extensively tested. (Just to be on the safe side, you should probably plan on discarding the profile and database copy after producing your output, to avoid any possible issues in your data from exposure to the multilingual branch -- it's an experimental project at this point -- reasonably stable, but experimental just the same.)
So I will wait for the incorporation of the new citeproc-js. And try it. Please can you tell than what the appropriate code is for using my requested feature.
Thanks!
1. I have to sort my multiple citations like this: (Walter 2002, 2007; Zunn 2005; Silk et al. 2007; van Schaik et al. 2007; Walter et al. 2007).
First sort after year than author, but if the first author is twice times in this citation his citation will be grouped (regardless the first sort order). Is this possible?
2. you will see that also above. Particles in the surnames should be included in the surname and considered when alphabetizing the references and that also on the Bibliography. It should be working like mentioned http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/16456/asm-citation-styles. But it did not work with your code (https://gist.github.com/909537 ).
I’m looking forward for any hints.
Thanks a lot
Re 2, in CSL 1.0 the handling of particles when sorting can be controlled, using appropriate options.
(Smith, 2000, 2010; Doe, 2005)...?
So if one sorted by date, you're saying the groups would get flattened, and hence you'd end up with ...
(Smith, 2000; Doe, 2005; Smith, 2010)...?
If yes, I have a feeling we have some work to do on the spec around these issues.
@bdarcus: The example you give would sort as: (Doe, 2005; Smith, 2000, 2010), if both primary and secondary sort keys are set for an ascending sort. In a group-and-sort algorithm, the "Doe" cite would be in the third position (because 2005 is greater than 2000). That's what the OP is looking for, and CSL 1.0, at least, doesn't support it.
Grouping and cascading key sorts are two different things. CSL 1.0 supports the latter, but not the former. The schema doesn't currently offer a means of specifying grouping behavior. If that were added to the schema, it could be implemented.
I'm asking, what happens now, with my example citation, if one has a style that specifies to sort the citation references by date?
Is the #2 example I presented how citeproc-js handles it?
If it is, this is why I say we need to discuss it on xbib-dev and/or github, because I think it would indicate some confusion and ambiguity in the spec, where this is just one example of the consequence (the other being the delimiter thing we discussed last week).
https://github.com/citation-style-language/schema/issues/40#issuecomment-990263
So for the example "(Smith, 2000, 2010; Brown, 2005; Doe 2005)", perhaps we could extend CSL with something like:
<sort>
<key macro="issued"/>
<key macro="author" group-matches="true"/>
</sort>
I.e., cites are first sorted by year of issue, e.g. "(Smith, 2000; Doe, 2005; Brown 2005; Smith 2010)", then by the rendered contributor name list "(Smith, 2000; Brown, 2005; Doe 2005; Smith 2010)", and finally cites with a matching second sort key are grouped, "(Smith, 2000, 2010; Brown, 2005; Doe 2005)".
This is a significant change to sorting behavior, but after discussions here and on the CSL list, it seems safe to just impose it on this category of styles. It will be up to the developers whether to adopt the processor in this form for the next release. If it does go forward, we'll see how accurate my intuition is.
I have a problem with your code you wrote for me, which was working very good but now i have to change something in the document and in one reference an error occurs: (Smith 2001, 2002, [CSL STYLE ERROR: reference with no printed form.], 2006a). Normally it should look like: (see Smith et al. 2001; Smith 2002; Smith et al. 2002, 2006a). I was searching for this error in the forum but i found nothing.
I'm working with word 2010 firefox 5.0 and zotero 2.1.8..
Thank you for any hint.
Update:
May it is not really helpful! but i played a little bit around: if I update (via "Zotero refresh") my old document version now the same error occurs. but if i do this in a complete new word file and add only the four references the error is not there.
thank you very much for your answer. After checking the debugging steps nothing was changed. So I took a look in the code and made one change in "citation et-al-min="3"" from 1 to 3 and then it worked fine. I don’t know why it was not a problem in my previous version.
But now i have one more question. It is about the here discussed sorting style and different separators together. Is it possible to have something like this: (Bichson 1994; Birstein 1997; 1998a,b) the same name but different years separated by semicolon and inside of one year separated by comma? Now it is like this (Bichson 1994; Birstein 1997, 1998a,b) the semicolon between the two years is missing. But if there is only one reference per year it should be like (Bichson 1994; Birstein 1997, 1999). The years are separated by comma. I think it is tricky but maybe CSL is able to do things like this.