Citations mess up when inserting multiple sources

nik
My set up:
Mac 10.6.6 - Openoffice 3.2.1 - Zotero 2.1b5 - Openoffice Plugin 3.1b1

I'm trying to cite using the American Sociological Association style (one of the default styles in Zotero). When I select from the source list more than 3 papers everything messes up. Please see image below.

http://postimage.org/image/2qhrdanno/

or here

http://tinypic.com/r/2jahqie/7

Any suggestion?

Thanks a lot

PS Zotero 2.1b7 doesn't seem to solve the problem
  • adamsmith
    that looks like disambiguation gone haywire -
    have you tried this with a completely empty document? If not, please do.
    In any case, Frank will probably need to take a look.
  • nik
    Hi Adamsmith,
    thank you very much for your quick reply! Really appreciate your precious help. Yes, I tried with an empty document and I have same mess.

    Many thanks again.
  • fbennett
    The cites all look correct. What exactly is messed up?
  • adamsmith
    In the third citation, Zotero adds a second author before the et al - Morley, King, et al. - as if using disambiguate-add-names - but without any apparent reason.
  • fbennett
    Ah. I wonder why that would be. I'll take a look.
  • fbennett
    Using the processor embedded in Zotero 2.1b7, I am unable to reproduce this failure. I'll try installing the latest beta to see if it can be reproduced in Zotero.
  • fbennett
    ... but with Zotero itself, I can produce wrong results, although not precisely that wrong result. The source of the problem is not obvious, but we'll get it figured out. It looks like it may be leaking name-limit values across cites during refresh cycles or preview resets, but that's just a guess.
  • nik
    Hi fbennett, thank you very much for helping with that. Cheers.
  • fbennett
    Yes, it's definitely related to previewing. Zotero invokes the processor twice each time a reference is added to the citation: once for preview, and then once for the citation in the document. A reset takes place after the preview, and that is apparently leaving some cruft in the registry that's causing the corruption. No fix yet, but the general area where the failure is occurring is clear, so a fix should emerge fairly soon.
  • nik
    Hi fbennett,
    will a downgrade to some 2.1 beta make me continue working on my stuff? What do you advice?
    Many thanks.
  • adamsmith
    edited February 15, 2011
    unlikely - this is unlikely to be a new bug - just keep working on this and there is a good chance this will be fixed in a future release. Worst case you'll have to manually edit in the end - that's why this is a beta version: There's always a chance for something like this to come up.

    Edit: also, it's likely possible to temporarily adjust the style not to do this - while this will disable some disambiguation functionality, there's a good chance you're not using that anyway, so there would be no cost for you.
  • nik
    Hi Adamsmith
    thanks for the advices. Any link you can post where I can learn more about disabling disambiguation functionality in a style?

    Cheers,
    nik
  • fbennett
    This bug has been fixed in a fresh processor release that I've just pushed up. The behavior should heal up in the next beta release of Zotero.
  • adamsmith
    (for what it's worth, remove the disambiguate-add-names option from the citation section of the style http://www.zotero.org/support/csl_simple_edits but as this is fixed in the next version of Zotero I wouldn't do that unless you're in a big hurry).
  • nik
    Brilliant! Many thanks to you guys. Hope this discussion will help others having the same problem. Cheers.
  • nik
    I did a temp style, I removed from it all the disambiguate-names things but nothing changes. I still get the same problem. Any thoughts? Below the temp style I created.

    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
    <style xmlns="http://purl.org/net/xbiblio/csl" class="in-text" xml:lang="en">
    <info>
    <title>TempStyleNik</title>
    <id>http://www.zotero.org/styles/nik</id>;
    <link href="http://www.zotero.org/styles/nik"/>
    <author>
    <name>Rintze Zelle</name>
    <uri>http://forums.zotero.org/account/831/</uri>;
    </author>
    <contributor>
    <name>Sebastian Karcher</name>
    </contributor>
    <category term="geology"/>
    <link href="http://www.geosociety.org/pubs/geoguid5.htm" rel="documentation"/>
    <updated>2010-07-26T02:21:30+00:00</updated>
    <rights>This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/</rights>;
    </info>
    <macro name="editor-translator">
    <names variable="editor translator" prefix="(" suffix=")" delimiter=", ">
    <name and="symbol" initialize-with=". " delimiter=", "/>
    <label form="short" prefix=", " text-case="capitalize-first" suffix="."/>
    </names>
    </macro>
    <macro name="author">
    <names variable="author">
    <name name-as-sort-order="all" and="text" sort-separator=", " initialize-with="."
    delimiter=", " delimiter-precedes-last="always"/>
    <label form="short" prefix=" (" suffix=".)" text-case="capitalize-first"/>
    <substitute>
    <names variable="editor"/>
    <names variable="translator"/>
    <text variable="title"/>
    </substitute>
    </names>
    </macro>
    <macro name="author-short">
    <names variable="author">
    <name form="short" and="text" delimiter=", " initialize-with="."/>
    <substitute>
    <names variable="editor"/>
    <names variable="translator"/>
    <choose>
    <if type="book">
    <text variable="title" form="short" font-style="italic"/>
    </if>
    <else>
    <text variable="title" form="short" quotes="true"/>
    </else>
    </choose>
    </substitute>
    </names>
    </macro>
    <macro name="publisher">
    <group delimiter=", ">
    <text variable="publisher"/>
    <text variable="publisher-place"/>
    </group>
    </macro>
    <citation>
    <option name="et-al-min" value="3"/>
    <option name="et-al-use-first" value="1"/>
    <option name="et-al-subsequent-min" value="3"/>
    <option name="et-al-subsequent-use-first" value="1"/>
    <option name="disambiguate-add-year-suffix" value="true"/>
    <layout prefix="(" suffix=")" delimiter="; ">
    <group delimiter=", ">
    <text macro="author-short"/>
    <date variable="issued" >
    <date-part name="year"/>
    </date>
    <group>
    <label variable="locator" suffix="." form="short"/>
    <text variable="locator" prefix=" "/>
    </group>
    </group>
    </layout>
    </citation>
    <bibliography>
    <option name="hanging-indent" value="true"/>
    <option name="et-al-min" value="15"/>
    <option name="et-al-use-first" value="15"/>
    <sort>
    <key macro="author-short"/>
    <key variable="title"/>
    </sort>
    <layout suffix=".">
    <group delimiter=", ">
    <text macro="author"/>
    <date variable="issued" suffix=",">
    <date-part name="year"/>
    </date>
    </group>
    <choose>
    <if type="report">
    <text variable="title" prefix=" " suffix=":"/>
    <text variable="publisher" prefix=" " suffix=","/>
    <text variable="collection-title" prefix=" "/>
    </if>
    <else-if type="book">
    <group suffix=":">
    <text variable="title" prefix=" "/>
    <text macro="editor-translator" prefix=" "/>
    </group>
    <text prefix=" " suffix="." macro="publisher"/>
    </else-if>
    <else-if type="chapter">
    <text variable="title" prefix=" "/>
    <group class="container" prefix=", ">
    <text term="in" text-case="lowercase" font-style="italic"/>
    <names variable="editor translator" prefix=" " suffix="," delimiter=", " >
    <name and="text" sort-separator=", " initialize-with="." name-as-sort-order="all"/>
    <label form="short" prefix=" " suffix="." text-case="lowercase"/>
    </names>
    <text variable="container-title" prefix=" " suffix=","/>
    <text variable="collection-title" prefix=" " suffix=","/>
    <group suffix=".">
    <text macro="publisher" prefix=" "/>
    <group prefix=", ">
    <text variable="page" prefix="p. "/>
    </group>
    </group>
    </group>
    </else-if>
    <else-if type="map">
    <text variable="title" prefix=" "/>
    <text variable="collection-title" prefix=": "/>
    <text variable="note" prefix=", scale "/>
    </else-if>
    <else-if type="thesis">
    <text variable="title" prefix=" "/>
    <text variable="genre" prefix=" [" suffix="]"/>
    <group prefix=": " delimiter=", ">
    <!--text variable="place" -->
    <text variable="publisher"/>
    <!--text variable="number-of-pages" suffix=" p."-->
    </group>
    </else-if>
    <else>
    <group suffix=":">
    <text variable="title" prefix=" "/>
    <text macro="editor-translator" prefix=" "/>
    </group>
    <group class="container" prefix=" " suffix=".">
    <text variable="container-title" suffix=","/>
    <group prefix=" ">
    <text variable="volume" prefix="v. "/>
    <text variable="issue" prefix=", no. "/>
    </group>
    <text variable="page" prefix=", p. "/>
    </group>
    </else>
    </choose>
    </layout>
    </bibliography>
    </style>
  • fbennett
    You're best off waiting for the next beta release to come out.
  • adamsmith
    if you want to you can try this:
    https://gist.github.com/raw/829476/d2c4a96fa3204428acf58877b86440558a7b8111/nik.csl
    but fbennett is right.
  • nik
    Adam, your style works perfectly. Many thanks guys!
    nik

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