Groups : impossible to move a collection to a group library
I am member of a group and am allowed to move items (bib entries) from my library to the group library.
But then what i want to do is replicate my "collections" structuration on the group library, because it will be helpful for my colleagues.
And when I try to select my own collection from the left pane, I cannot copy it to the group library with the mouse cursor.
I am allowed to create a collection in the group library, and to move items from the root of my own library, but not much more.
If I want to bypass this problem, creating collections from the goup button or left click, and then I open one of my own collection, I an not allowed to move items from there. Strange. Again, while moving items or groups of items (by multiple selection) from the root "my library" is allowed, and this can be done at destination of the root group library or a group collection.
Looks like a bug, isn't it?
Alain
edit: I discovered in addition that the reverse operation is possible! Selecting items on a remote collection and copy them to a local collection; frustrating the reverse operation is not possible!
But then what i want to do is replicate my "collections" structuration on the group library, because it will be helpful for my colleagues.
And when I try to select my own collection from the left pane, I cannot copy it to the group library with the mouse cursor.
I am allowed to create a collection in the group library, and to move items from the root of my own library, but not much more.
If I want to bypass this problem, creating collections from the goup button or left click, and then I open one of my own collection, I an not allowed to move items from there. Strange. Again, while moving items or groups of items (by multiple selection) from the root "my library" is allowed, and this can be done at destination of the root group library or a group collection.
Looks like a bug, isn't it?
Alain
edit: I discovered in addition that the reverse operation is possible! Selecting items on a remote collection and copy them to a local collection; frustrating the reverse operation is not possible!
* it is possible, when inside the group library, to move an item from the root to a collection.
* It is possible to move an item from personal collection to group collection only if this item is not already present in the group library somewhere
So I have removed all my items on the group library, I have created manually the collections there, and then I have copied, collection by collection, the items from my collections in their corresponding collections on the group library.
And that's it.
Nevertheless two limitations still exist:
* no possibility to copy the collections from personal to group libraries and vice-versa.
* no way to move a personal item to a group collection it this item is already present in the group library
Is it worth opening a bug declaration?
Alain
This presents a problem for me because it is (would be) extremely useful to be able to break down my groups into a series of collections in which I can put references, including placing particular references into more than one collection when appropriate.
I hope we will be able to cross-catalogue references in different collections in groups soon!!!
Please! This severely limits the utility of deferred collaboration!!!!
Just adding my voice to those who want to be able to move a collection to a group library.
I am using Zotero with my students and want to be able to give them access to a copy of one of my collections. At this point I can't move the collection, NOR can I even move a multiple selection - I can only move items one by one.
Adding this capability would be great!
-John
I just set up a group and ran into the same problem, impossible to drag anything from my library to the group library. The documentation says this is possible, but it just is not.
I interpreted a collection being an item too, which, considering the amazement of the previous posters is not a common misunderstanding.
I suggest this needs fixing in such a way that you can just drag collecctions into group collections to.
As you drag items from your library to the group, note that select all (ctrl+a or cmd+a) used in a collection is your friend.
Is there some kind of flag to indicate that something is already in a group so I know not to include them in a group move?
Also, what does "already in group" mean? /Exactly/ the same? Or same author year? or some other combination of fields?
Here's a use case:
1) You do a search of your own dbase for some topic (advanced search: "Ruthwell Cross" for example)
2) You come up with 1000 items (650 of which are already in the group bibliography).
3) You highlight everything in your search result window and try to move it.
4) (in my case), it won't do anything, so then you try smaller numbers of items till you get something that will allow you to transfer them.
5) You do so, and then you get an error that says that since some of these items were already in the group bibliography nothing has been moved.
The only way of getting around this that I can see is run the same search on the group library; write down the author-year on items that the group has on the same subject; rerun the same search on your library; manually highlight everything but the shared entries between the two; move things over and hope you haven't accidentally included a common entry and so caused the whole thing to abort.
Something you can't do is try a couple, then a couple more, and so on. Every time you do a transfer, your local library resets and you have to rerun the search.
Some solutions:
a) Flag the common items (hard given that you could be in different groups)
b) Arrange it so that a transfer flags the duplicates but completes for the rest--e.g. similar to the way sync/conflict works--rather than throw an abort error for the entire transfer if there is some duplication
c) return after an error to the last state--meaning that people could run a search and then try different combinations of entries.
1. Create the collections under the Group libraries you have. I would suggest to have only one library if possible since the libraries don't talk to each other. (You can't search across libraries.)
2. Go to the Personal library and highlight the bib entries you want, and then drag and drop them into the collections you created in step 1.
3. Delete the old entries and remove the old collection after you make sure the entries are in place.
If you have a lot of entries, Zotero would crash sometimes but I don't think the entries get lost anyway.
Hope this helps.
Thanks, anyway.
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