Ah, could be. I want this to pop up in the citations of my word processor. But what locator entries do i look for? I´m still not good enough to unterstand whole macros. Forex, i have these entries:

<text variable="locator" prefix=", "/>

Is it enough to choose them to:

<text variable="locator" prefix=", S. "/>

?

And of course, there are a lot of other locators listet. Forex:

<macro name="point-locators-subsequent">
<group>
<choose>
<if locator="page" match="none">
<choose>
<if type="book">
<choose>
<if variable="volume">
<group>
<text term="volume" form="short" text-case="lowercase" suffix=". "/>
<number variable="volume" form="numeric"/>
<label variable="locator" form="short" include-period="true" prefix=", " suffix=" "/>
</group>
</if>
<else>
<label variable="locator" form="short" include-period="true" suffix=" "/>
</else>
</choose>
</if>
</choose>
</if>
<else-if type="book">
<number variable="volume" form="numeric" suffix=":"/>
</else-if>
</choose>
<text variable="locator"/>
</group>
</macro>

I´m simply not good enough yet to understand which "locator"entries are relevant for me - and how to change them.

EDIT: Gah, why doesn´t he show the code?

Thanks for the hint about the code. Got that to work. The locators, however, still give me trouble. Perhaps i`m stupid, but i have simply no clue where to include the S. when i find an entry of <text variable="locator"/>. It exists two times in Chicago Full Note w. Bibliography, but even with the diverse help pages here i cannot fathom which entry / part of an entry has to be changed.

And yes, Chicago is relatively complicated, but it's tough to change style completely for me now.

Anyway, i appreciate the help. :)

Hey,

yes, i used the test panel, but i thought you could only choose sources out of your library to test, not actual citations. And that does not show the page number i enter myself during inserting a citation. What i want (if that is possible) is that if i put in a citation and enter forex "176" in the page field in the "insert citation" page, that i automatically get S. before those page references in the citation.

As in:

Manfred Hettling und Michael Jeismann, Der Weltkrieg als Epos. Philip Witkorps Kriegsbriefe gefallener Studenten, in Keiner fühlt sich hier mehr als Mensch... Erlebnis und Wirkung des Ersten Weltkriegs, hg. v. Gerhard Hirschfeld, Gerd Krumeich, und Irina Renz (Essen: Klartext, 1993), S. 176.

Of course i could just write the S. before the number i enter into the citation field, but that would mean to edit 220+ footnotes & citations by hand. Of course, if its not possible anyway else, that´s what i have to do.

Again, thanks for the help. I used the test pane including the numbers to test out your suggestions.

My problem is this: I only have two lines with <text variable="locator" in this in the whole style:

This one

</if>
<else-if type="article-journal">
<text variable="locator" prefix=": S. "/>
</else-if>
<else-if type="legal_case"> </else-if>
<else>

and this one


</if>
<else-if type="legal_case">
<text variable="volume" prefix=", "/>
<text variable="container-title" prefix=" "/>
<text variable="page" prefix=" "/>
<text variable="locator" prefix=", S. "/>
</else-if>
<else-if type="book chapter" match="any">
<group prefix=", " delimiter=", ">
<group>

Inserting S. works perfectly for journal articles, and it would work as well (i suppose) if i had any legal cases. But i don´t have similar lines for books, bookchapters etc., so i don´t know what to do to change that. Basically, all i need is page numbers for journal articles, books and book chapters.

Oh, and regarding to your last tip. Do you mean like this?:

</if>
<else-if type="legal_case">
<text variable="volume" prefix=", "/>
<text variable="container-title" prefix=" "/>
<text variable="page" prefix=" "/>
<text label="locator" form="short" text-case="capitalize-first" suffix="."/>
<text variable="locator" prefix=", "/>
</else-if>
<else-if type="book chapter" match="any">
<group prefix=", " delimiter=", ">
<group>

Sorry if i sound dense, but this is straining my thinking abilities to the max.

Wow, that (nearly) did it! Thanks so much! All books and book chapters show up with S. Strangely, however, no journal article has an S., and if you cite books a second time, they, too have no S. But this was already a lot of help.

You mean this one, right?

<macro name="point-locators-subsequent">
<group>
<choose>
<if locator="page" match="none">
<choose>
<if type="book">
<choose>
<if variable="volume">
<group>
<text term="volume" form="short" text-case="lowercase" suffix=". "/>
<number variable="volume" form="numeric"/>
<label variable="locator" form="short" include-period="true" prefix=", " suffix=" "/>
</group>
</if>
<else>
<label variable="locator" form="short" include-period="true" suffix=" "/>
</else>
</choose>
</if>
</choose>
</if>
<else-if type="book">
<number variable="volume" form="numeric" suffix=":"/>
</else-if>
</choose>
<text variable="locator"/>
</group>
</macro>

I wracked my brain and looked what we´ve done so far to get the numbers to appear, but i can still not decide what to change. Code =1, Me = 0.

The change for the articles worked perfectly, thanks a lot!

Okay, checked and counterchecked. Everything works. I'm deeply indepted to you *bows*.

i'm afraid that my changes still could not completely satisfy my professor. I'm currently working at the history department of the Universtiy of Siegen, Germany.

If someone wants the changed style right now, just post in this thread and i will mail it to you. Changes are: no "", no italics, S. before every page number. But i will look into publishing the style on my homepage or that of the University once my style "discussion" has finally ended.

If ever. :)