Upgrade StorageShortened note in preference to ibid. Chicago style.
I apologise in advance because I've already asked a variant of this question before, but pertaining specifically to a per page basis.
My university department uses Chicago 15th and does allow the use of ibid but prefers a shortened form of the note where each note is not _exactly_ the same. So for instance "Ibid, 21." would be discouraged because the page is not the same so a shortened version of the note should be used.
Is there anyway to make it so Ibid is only used when the preceding note is exactly the same and a shortened note is used otherwise? Some sort of toggle between the different forms in the citation editor would be good.
Thanks.
My university department uses Chicago 15th and does allow the use of ibid but prefers a shortened form of the note where each note is not _exactly_ the same. So for instance "Ibid, 21." would be discouraged because the page is not the same so a shortened version of the note should be used.
Is there anyway to make it so Ibid is only used when the preceding note is exactly the same and a shortened note is used otherwise? Some sort of toggle between the different forms in the citation editor would be good.
Thanks.
I don't have a lot of time right now, so unless you feel a little comfortable with csl this won't make sense, but the way to go would be through
which tests for the presence of a locator - such as the page number after ibid.
I'm not very competent with the csl language, I haven't tried editing it before.
Thanks for your help.
<choose>Because the subsequent form is used twice in the layout, you would probably want to set it up as a macro.<if position="first">
...... CSL for full form
</if>
<else-if position="ibid-with-locator">
....... CSL for "subsequent" form
</else-if>
<else-if position="ibid">
....... CSL for ibid
</else-if>
<else>
....... CSL for "subsequent" form (again)
</else>
</choose>
This will account for the fact that a cite to the same page as the preceding cite should be treated as identical, and be rendered as "ibid".
(Side note for CSL development: This is would be easier to accomplish if the piority ordering of the position values were altered in CSL. The ranking is currently "ibid-with-locator" implies "ibid", which implies "subsequent", which implies "first". If the positions of "ibid" and "ibid-with-locator" were switched, to put the most-nearly-identical test (ibid) at the end of the chain, the conditional above could be simplified a bit.)
(EDIT: Switched order of conditions; I had misread the CSL specification. On reflection, I think that changing the priority order of these conditions inside the processor is probably not a good idea. Too much chance of unintended side effects.)
I'm a graduate student in history and several professors have commented that I shouldn't be using ibid at all but just a "Last Name, Book/Article, Page Number" shortened form for any repeat uses of the same document. Thanks!
It's pretty easy to do, though -
From the full note style, remove this:
<if position="ibid-with-locator">
<group delimiter=", ">
<text term="ibid" text-case="capitalize-first" suffix="."/>
<text macro="point-locators-subsequent"/>
</group>
</if>
<else-if position="ibid">
<text term="ibid" text-case="capitalize-first" suffix="."/>
</else-if>
and change the following
<else-if> and the </else-if> about five lines below to
<if> and </if> respectively.
See here for general instructions on changing styles:
http://www.zotero.org/support/csl_simple_edits