Style Request: Atmospheric Sciences

I am looking for a style that follows the Journals of American Meteorological Society. The examples of format style are described in section 3d of the brief guide for authors (http://www.ametsoc.org/pubs/authorsguide/pdf_vs/agbrf2002.pdf).

I found Zotero a convenient and powerful tool to manage references, except the citation styles are not fully supported. If anyone could assist me with this you would make my job so much easier. Thank you for the help!
  • edited January 13, 2009
    There is at least one issue with this style guide which prevents me from writing a correct CSL style (it has to do with the use of "et al." in in-text citations and "and Coauthors" in the bibliography). There is some discussion on how to change CSL to make it possible though:

    http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=fbb7c5df0812120613p610a3bd2oc0a5e895240dab13@mail.gmail.com&forum_name=xbiblio-devel

    As an aside, the style guide you linked to wasn't complete. Some addition info on the style can be found in some of the Authors' Guides on this page:

    http://www.ametsoc.org/pubs/journals/index.html

    more specifically the full Authors' Guide:
    http://www.ametsoc.org/pubs/authorsguide/pdf_vs/authguide.pdf
    and the Comprehensive Reference Guide:
    http://www.ametsoc.org/pubs/refguide.pdf
  • Indeed, the American Meteorological Society citation style would be quite helpful!
  • +1

    Looking forward to see American Meteorological Society citation style..

    Many Atmospheric Sciences scientists are using LaTex to publish their work.. Zotero would give great flexibility to this community..
  • http://www.zotero.org/support/requesting_styles
    also, how would Zotero citation styles help you when you're writing with LaTeX?
  • edited October 29, 2009
    thx for the link. Since the style was not in the "Style Repository" list and since the request was already here, I thought not to duplicate the request, and simply support it here..

    About LaTex, I guess little misunderstanding. Let me correct it: if Zotero would come up with an AMS style, it would be a great flexibility for those who does not want to use LaTex (i.e. MS Word users).. I didn't mean Zotero would be helpful writing writing with LaTex..

    Also, LaTex and Word templates are given at AMS web page. If AMS can be persuaded to display a link to the "Zotero AMS style for Word" along with the Word template, that would further help spreading the word..
  • the problem with the request is that it has never been made properly.
    You (as in: everyone requesting styles) are already asking people to volunteer their time - we are not likely to do so unless you take the time to organize the necessary information in a way that allows us to code the style quickly. That's what the above links tells people requesting styles to do. I never start working before I have a well prepared list of differences to a similar style by the requester.
  • Below is a similar journal and the differences..
    Thanks a million in advance for the time and the effort if anyone can help.


    Style Requested “American Meteorological Society”
    Similar Journal: “Annals of the Association of American Geographers”

    Differences in the Reference List:
    Last author should be separated from year with a comma rather than a full stop.

    When there are two or more publications referred from same authors for same year, year should have a single letter suffix (from a to z) based on the second author surname. (i.e. 2007a, 2007b, 2007c).
    i.e.
    Smith, E. and A.,Russell, 2007a: Molecular Cloning. Appl. Microbiol., 45, 120-130.
    Smith, E., A., Simon, and A. Russell, 2007b: Xylose Fermentation. Appl. Microbiol., 48, 180-187.

    Year should be separated from title with colon rather than full stop.

    (if can be implemented) Reference list should be case in-sensitive to the bibliography entry. Title should be lower case and only the initial letter of the journal name should be upper case. This would be particularly useful, when libraries are shared and the initial bibliography entry was written case in-sensitive.

    Journal names should be abbreviated rather than full name.

    Volume numbers should be bold.

    Volume number should be separated from page numbers with a comma rather than colon.

    Total page number of the cited book should be given after the publisher with a comma in between. (Author(s), publication year: Book Title. Publisher, total pages.)


    Differences in the Citations
    If three or more citations are listed together, then they should be separated with a semicolon rather than a comma. i.e. (Smith et al, 2007; Russell et al., 2008; Pear et al., 2009).

    When there are more than two authors, only the first author should be given, and the remaining should be referred as “et al.”

    When there are two or more publications from the same author from same year, year should be followed by a single letter suffix showing the order of the citation i.e. (Smith et al., 2007a; Russell et al. 2007a,b)

    If a specific page or page range needs to be cited, this should also follow the year, preceded by a comma.i.e. Smith (1996, 235–237). If a single page is cited, "p." should be inserted before the number. i.e., Smith (1996, p. 125).
  • I also would love to see support for AMS journals. I believe "Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory Press" might be a closer analog. I'm new to zotero, so some of the issues mentioned by blackfox might be true for all journals. Here are some specific differences between AMS and Cold Spring:

    -- Should be a space between initials
    -- Comma before year
    -- Colon after year
    -- Bold comma after volume

    In addition, books should be appended with number of pages, such as:

    Gill A. E., 1982: Atmosphere-Ocean Dynamics. Academic Press, 662 pp.

    I've never looked at CSL before, but I'll take a stab at making these changes....
  • thanks - I had not seen blackfox's post so thanks for bringing this up again.
    To start with csl, see these three pages:
    This
    http://www.zotero.org/support/csl_simple_edits
    and this
    http://www.zotero.org/support/dev/creating_citation_styles
    to get you started

    This for an (almost) complete documentation
    http://www.zotero.org/support/dev/csl_syntax_summary
    let us know if you run into problems, happy to help
  • That wasn't so bad. I'll submit it as soon as zotero comes gives me permission.

    A few items that I did not or could not do:

    -- Number of pages in book citations. From what I can tell this is a deficiency with zotero.
    -- Letters when there are multiple citations by the same author (e.g., Smith 2008a,b). I assume zotero cannot do this, and it should be easier to do manually in the word processor
    -- Adding the "p." when a single page is cited (e.g., Smith 2008, p. 125) but not when a page range is cited (e.g., Smith 2008, 125-200) (again, easy to do manually)
    -- Not sure if it sorts the bibliography correctly. AMS sorts first by author, then by number of authors (1, 2, or "3 or more"), and then by date. Currently, I have it set to sort by author then date.
  • edited January 15, 2010
    most of this is actually possible
    - number of pages will be possible with the next release of Zotero, due out in the next couple of days, it will be text variable="number-of-pages" - you might even want to put it in already because the release is pending.
    - letters are generally possible with
    <option name="disambiguate-add-year-suffix" value="true"/>
    in the citation section.
    That gives you
    Smith 2008a, Smith 2008b
    if you also put
    <option name="collapse" value="year"/>
    you get
    Smith 2008a, 2008b or
    and with
    <option name="collapse" value="year-suffix"/>
    Smith 2008a, b.
    - I think p. vs no p. should be doable by defining terms in the beginning http://www.zotero.org/support/dev/csl_syntax_summary#terms - those usually allow for multiple vs. single and you should just be able to define multiple as empty.
    I can have a look if you can't figure that out.
    - the last point isn't possible.
  • Ok, I made all the changes except for the p. vs no p.

    The only other issue I see is for people with hyphenated first names. They should be included in the bibliography as "C.-P.", but right now it's just the first initial "C.".

    I'm also having trouble figuring out how to upload the csl file. I'm new to contributing to open source, and none of the help files seem to have step-by-step instructions.
  • thanks - there is indeed no good guide to uploading style.

    if you want I can upload it for you - put it on gist.github.com and post the address here
    I could also check out the page issue for you.

    If you want to do it yourself (and it is kind of fun...) you first need to get trac/SVN access:
    https://www.zotero.org/dev/trac_access

    Then you probably want an SVN frontend. On Windows people use Tortoise SVN, about which Rintze has posted here:
    http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/3808/wrong-german-citation-in-chicago-and-harvard-style/?Focus=16585#Comment_16585

    On Ubuntu Linux I use RabbitVCS, which works pretty much the same way and integrates nicely with Nautilus. I'm not sure what the Mac solution is, but I'm sure there is one.
    On Mac and Linux SVN also works nicely of the command line if you're so inclined, you'll find plenty of tutorials online.
  • edited January 18, 2010
    The only other issue I see is for people with hyphenated first names. They should be included in the bibliography as "C.-P.", but right now it's just the first initial "C.".
    This is not yet possible, but is addressed in (the not yet released) CSL 1.0.
  • I committed the file. It's not showing up yet on the website, so I'm not sure if I did something wrong or if it just takes a little while.
  • looks good:
    https://www.zotero.org/trac/timeline
    it often takes a little time, yes.
  • Ok, looks like it's all set to go. The style can be found at:

    http://www.zotero.org/styles/ametsoc/dev?install=1

    And the Import/Export discussion is at:

    http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/10671/new-american-meteorological-society-style/
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