Zotero Item Types and Fields

SieversBeat
The element type "photo" (in german "Foto") is still missing. A photo is often not an artwork. These can be admired in art museums; photos are often not as valuable.
Photos are equivalent items to "Film" and "Video Recording".

The correct german term for "preprint" is “Vorabdruck” or ‘Vordruck’.

Please change "Gerichtsentscheidung" to "Gerichtsurteil" in the German version.

Thanks for adding and correcting that.
  • damnation
    Translations for the app are done on Transifex and you can suggest your changes there: https://www.zotero.org/support/dev/localization (see the first part under "Desktop App")
  • SieversBeat
    I am not familiar with this Transiflex program and am therefore contacting the Zotero developers directly, as they alone have the rights and ability to modify the source code.
  • aborel
    As answered by a developer, translations happen on Transifex. Teams of volunteers handle each language, and the results are imported later into the Zotero code base.

    As for a Photo item type: I don't think the value of the object is the key factor. Instead, consider what the metadata properties should be, and how they will be cited. I would assume Artwork will fit well enough (but I admit I rarely use that item type, so I could be wrong).
  • SieversBeat
    Im deutschen Sprachraum sind Kunstwerke und Fotografien inhaltlich ziemlich verschiedene Objekte, auch was ihre Attribute betrifft. Fotografien können Kunstwerke sein, wenn sie von einem Künstler erstellt werden, meist sind es nicht langfristig erhaltbare Bilder von Zufallszuständen. Ich bleibe deshalb bei meiner Wertung.
    In the German-speaking world, artworks and photographs are quite different objects in terms of content and attributes. Photographs can be artworks if they are created by an artist, but most of the time they are images of random situations that will not be preserved in the long term. I therefore stand by my assessment.
  • aborel
    edited 9 days ago
    I understand how they can be culturally different, and I essentially agree with that. My question is how they would be different in the context of Zotero. Adding new item types is a complicated process, so there needs to be a very strong reason for that.

    The current documentation recommends to use the Artwork type for all kinds of images and visual items: https://www.zotero.org/support/kb/item_types_and_fields

    This means that the Artwork type to describe a photograph should work for most or all practical Zotero purposes (metadata fields, citations, etc.) - maybe one needs to overlook the name if it feels inappropriate, but otherwise it should do everything you need. Is there something that you need that the Artwork type in Zotero is unable to do?
  • SieversBeat
    Good afternoon aborel
    I don't know your qualifications. If you are a Zotero developer, we can continue the discussion, otherwise I don't see the point.
    I am a Zotero user since 20 years and a geodesy and photogrammetry engineer who frequently uses professional photos.
    In Zotero, I find the following useful attributes missing for clearly describing photos:
    - location of photograph: ITRF or geographical coordinates
    - image scale
    - aperture
    - exposure
    - chamber constant (focal length)
    - pixel size (ground resolution)
    - shooting angle
    - image number
    etc.
    None of these parameters can be entered in the Zotero item "Artwork".
    Take a look at https://ba.e-pics.ethz.ch/#detail-asset=e17d4cfa-b7ce-44cc-b838-1456955860f1, for example.
    Best regards
  • aborel
    I'm not a core Zotero developer (I'm working on a few plugins, metadata translators and text translations), but I was trying to get you to give more details about your request in a way that developers might be able evaluate. Your latest post certainly does that, I really appreciate your taking the time to list these elements!

    (stepping aside now)
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