Style Request: Council of Science Editors 9th edition citation-sequence

citationsIWRC
There are currently 4 styles of Council of Science Editors I found in the repository. The most recent being from 2022. CSE now has a 9th edition published early spring of 2024.


Link to 9th edition: https://www.csemanual.org/Home.html

in-text citation: 1 2 (superscript)

References:
Campbell JL, Pedersen OK. The varieties of capitalism and hybrid success. Comparative Political Studies. 2007;40(3):307–332. https://doi.org/10.1177/0010414006286542

Mares I. Firms and the welfare state: When, why, and how does social policy matter to employers? In: Hall PA, Soskice D, editors. Varieties of capitalism. The institutional foundations of comparative advantage. Oxford University Press; 2001. p 184-213.


Example citations https://www.csemanual.org/Tools/CSE-Citation-Quick-Guide.html
  • adamsmith
    other than the DOI format, that looks like it stayed the same as the previous edition?
  • damnation
    edited May 31, 2024
    I see a few more.
    Et-al rules changes. Publisher location removed. Punctuation stripped for page label.
    I'll start working on it.

    Try this: https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/raw/0cf66c8ab7c9fbfcedea3a59ce2970214651eb42/council-of-science-editors.csl
  • citationsIWRC
    @Damnation yes, a few more changes like you said # of et_al, publisher location removed, also I believe journals are no longer italicized.

    Thank you for working on it. Brilliant. Let me know how I can support (from a nontech perspective).
  • damnation
    Style now available from the repository: https://www.zotero.org/styles?q=id:council-of-science-editors
  • adriannasutton
    i'd like to be able to load the CSE 9th edition in author-date format. i don't see that available. currently, only the 8th edition in author-date from 2022 is available to load.
  • damnation
    edited 2 days ago
    I had a quick stab at this. Can you let me know if this is all in order?
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  • adriannasutton
    Thank you! It doesn't show up in the menu when attempting to add styles, but I was able to download and add it manually.

    However, the formatting looks a bit off. For instance, the year isn't in the right place. It's putting it after the title instead of after the author. It's also including an access date, which isn't needed with the known publication date, according to the 9th edition of CSE. Weirdly, it's putting a number in front of the citation—problematic when placing citations in auto-numbered footnotes.

    Here's an example of what it generates:

    1. Tol RSJ. Social cost of carbon estimates have increased over time. Nature Climate Change. 2023 [accessed 2025 Jul 14];13(6):532–536. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41558-023-01680-x

    Here's what I would expect it to look like:
    Tol RSJ. 2023. Social cost of carbon estimates have increased over time. Nature Climate Change. 13(6):532–536. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41558-023-01680-x
  • damnation
    edited 2 days ago
    It doesn't show up in the menu as this is a draft style, not merged to the repository. That's be design.

    [deleted link]

    That you see the "accessed date" has nothing to do per se with this citation style. You're seeing that because you have the "Include URLs for papers articles in refernces" in the Zotero settings >> Cite.
  • adriannasutton
    Thanks for explaining about the access date. I changed that setting and, yes, it no longer appears! The numbering issue is also resolved.

    However, the date is still populating after the title instead of after the author.
    It looks like this:
    Tol RSJ. Social cost of carbon estimates have increased over time. Nature Climate Change. 2023;13(6):532–536. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41558-023-01680-x

    To conform to CSE author-year, it should look like this:
    Tol RSJ. 2023. Social cost of carbon estimates have increased over time. Nature Climate Change. 13(6):532–536. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41558-023-01680-x

    Once this last bug is resolved, will it be merged to the repository? I ask because I want to be able to provide clear instructions to my team at work about how to update Zotero to start using the 9th edition. I think manually adding it would be difficult for some. Thank you!
  • damnation
    edited 2 days ago
    So, I should've first checked all of this instead of just doing things.
    Going through the examples in the guidelines nothing actually pops out that it needs changing.
    The numeric style certainly needed some changes and we implemented them last year. I thought the styles are identical minus the in-text portion without actually checking.
    The author-date style we have on file was correct minus the DOI format we also changed for the numeric style.

    If you see anything else, do let me know.
  • adriannasutton
    One difference I'm noticing between the 8th and 9th editions is that the 8th edition doesn't automatically include the full URL (with http) for doi addresses.

    Example using CSE 8th edition (notice it just gives the doi without the full URL):
    Tol RSJ. 2023. Social cost of carbon estimates have increased over time. Nat Clim Chang. 13(6):532–536. doi:10.1038/s41558-023-01680-x.

    It would be great to have access to an updated CSE author-year style that reflects the 9th edition. Some other things have changed too, like the number of authors that need to be listed before using "et al." and the way websites are cited, dated.

    9th edition: https://www.csemanual.org/Tools/CSE-Citation-Quick-Guide.html
    8th edition: https://www.scientificstyleandformat.org/Tools/SSF-Citation-Quick-Guide.html
  • damnation
    Yeah, that just got merged and the style should be available in the next hours.
  • adriannasutton
    I've added the CSE 9th edition author-year style from the repository. The year is still not appearing in the correct place (it should appear after the author).

    Also, it looks like the CSE 8th edition author-year style has also been updated (now carries a 2025 date and the 2022 version we've been using is no longer available. The updated version of the 8th edition style no longer works. I cannot drag and drop citations into footnotes as I have been all along.

    So, at the moment, we don't have a usable style and this is something our large team uses daily.
  • adriannasutton
    Would it be possible to make the old style available again (2022 version of CSE 8th edition author-date)? Then, we can switch to the 9th edition once the year position issue is fixed.
  • poettli
    The updated version of the 8th edition style no longer works. I cannot drag and drop citations into footnotes as I have been all along.
    This looks similar to https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/125421/copy-of-citation-from-zotero-is-not-pasting#latest
    Could you 1) Update Zotero to the latest version, 2) select another style in the Quick Copy, then reselect "Council of Science Editors, Name-Year 8th edition (author-date)"?
  • adriannasutton
    I'm running the latest version of Zotero.

    I'm not familiar with Quick Copy. I normally just drag and drop items from the library directly into my document footnote (usually dragged to a Google Doc). I change styles through the settings panel and have already tried selecting a different style and then going back to CSE 8th edition name-year.

    The problem arose when that style was updated at the same time that the CSE 9th edition name-year was added to the repository. The 8th edition style used to have a 2022 date mark on it. That version is no longer available. The one with a 2025 date affixed to it appears to be identical to the 9th edition style.

    I'm asking if we can have the 2022 version of the 8th edition back while waiting for the 9th edition to be fixed.

    The problem with the 9th edition style is that it's putting the year in the wrong place.
  • poettli
    They are different for me when I drag and drop (this uses the Quick Copy function)

    Council of Science Editors, Name-Year 8th edition (author-date), 2025-07-15T16:43:28+00:00
    Tol RSJ. 2023. Social cost of carbon estimates have increased over time. Nat Clim Chang. 13(6):532–536. doi:10.1038/s41558-023-01680-x.

    Council of Science Editors, Name-Year 9th edition (author-date), 2025-07-15T16:43:28+00:00
    Tol RSJ. Social cost of carbon estimates have increased over time. Nature Climate Change. 2023;13(6):532–536. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41558-023-01680-x

  • adriannasutton
    Thanks, I figured out how to use the quick copy function you suggested and am able to get it to paste into my document that way.

    I still cannot drag and drop like I used to be able to with this style selected. It looks like this for 8th edition:
    Tol RSJ. 2023. Social cost of carbon estimates have increased over time. Nat Clim Chang. 13(6):532–536. doi:10.1038/s41558-023-01680-x.

    However, the 9th edition is still giving the year in the wrong place:
    Tol RSJ. Social cost of carbon estimates have increased over time. Nature Climate Change. 2023;13(6):532–536. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41558-023-01680-x
  • poettli
    edited yesterday at 8:16am
    I still cannot drag and drop like I used to be able to with this style selected
    Strange, it works for me. Edit: It suddenly stopped working. Edit2: It is working again after removing and reinstalling both styles.
    However, the 9th edition is still giving the year in the wrong place
    Yes, I guess this will be addressed later by one of the volunteer maintainers, when they have time.
  • damnation
    I just pushed a fix. Sorry for the problem.
    Yesterday wasn't my day.
  • poettli
    Thanks damnation
  • damnation
    And thanks for helping along, poettli! Appreciate it!
  • adriannasutton
    Thank you damnation and poettli!

    I removed and reinstalled both styles and can drag and drop both styles now.
    The 9th edition citation is fixed too, with the year in the right place. : )
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