Taylor and Francis X style with full names not initials

DimaSmaira · February 3, 2025

We are having trouble editing the Harvard referencing style in Zoteor. We need one which mentions the full names and not the initials of authors.
e.g.: Smith, Jenna, and Jones, Jim. 2012. Asia’s Future: Integration in Progress. New York: First & Bros.
This is for the journal is the International Spectator which is part of Taylor & Francis

damnation · February 3, 2025

We'd want to have this style fixed, if necessary, for all our users. It would take me 10min to fix this if it indeed needs fixing.

Looking into this I get the following:
Style guide for Internation Spectator, mentions Harvard X: https://files.taylorandfrancis.com/ref_rspe.pdf
Style guide for T&F Harvard X our style is based on: https://files.taylorandfrancis.com/tf_X.pdf

They don't match, hence the abbreviated first names for authors. Could you check back with the journal/T&F and clarify this?
I'd be happy to make the change, but it needs to make sense.

DimaSmaira · February 6, 2025

Hello, thanks for this. We got in touch with the journal editors and they confirmed that: the 'style sheet requires the first names (it is a customized version of Harvard X)'
and so the style to follow is the one on the following link: https://files.taylorandfrancis.com/ref_rspe.pdf

Would you be able to arrange this?

DimaSmaira · February 18, 2025

Hello, would you be able to fix the above as suggested please?

damnation · February 18, 2025

Bwiernik and adamsmith, let me know what we should do here. A custom style just for this journal or another Harvard X variant? It's messy from T&F to call two different styles the same.

DimaSmaira · March 3, 2025

Hello, any decision on how to move forward with this?

DimaSmaira · 2025-04-25T14:55:57+00:00

@damnation could you help with customising Harvard X so we can submit to International Spectator?

damnation · 2025-04-25T15:10:05+00:00

@adamsmith what's your take here? Then I can prepare a PR.

adamsmith · 2025-04-25T15:10:31+00:00

I'd go with a custom style just for the journals since we haven't seen this otherwise

DimaSmaira · 2025-04-28T09:16:23+00:00

@damnation the reference style guidelines are found here:

https://files.taylorandfrancis.com/ref_rspe.pdf?_gl=1*1me15wv*_gcl_au*MTQ5MDk3MzA5MC4xNzQ0ODgwMDAx*_ga*MjA0NzU3NjE0OS4xNzM2NDYwNTE1*_ga_0HYE8YG0M6*MTc0NTgzMTYwMC4xMi4wLjE3NDU4MzE2MjMuMzcuMC4w&_ga=2.5926516.654922194.1745831602-2047576149.1736460515

or through here: https://www.tandfonline.com/action/authorSubmission?show=instructions&journalCode=rspe20

damnation · 2025-04-28T09:33:50+00:00

(No need to tag me. We see every thread)

PR made: https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/pull/7543

DimaSmaira · 2025-04-30T07:36:35+00:00

ah sorry! and thank you for handling this.

Should we do something on our end or will we find the new style on zotero when it is ready?

damnation · 2025-04-30T08:01:24+00:00

It will be available once it's been reviewed. That can take months through.
You can use the style though by going to "Files changed", three dots, see file, "Raw".