MHRA 4th ed author-date - inserting citations in footnotes

nataliepicken
Hello all

I'm having an issue with the Modern Humanities Research Association 4th edition (author-date) style where it inserts the author date citation in parentheses, but in a footnote. I've found a previous discussion on MHRA 4th ed author-date but that was regarding the placement of the date in the Bibliography - nothing on this.

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There is an option when inserting the citation to choose Footnotes or Endnotes, but you can't unselect and other author-date styles (eg Harvard) just don't have this option.

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Does anyone know a fix for this issue or have an alternative style download available? I experimented with editing the to but that didn't work (I'm a novice with style editing so this was more a last attempt!)

Is anyone experiencing the same issue? Any help much appreciated :)

Natalie
  • damnation
    An author-dste style is designed to be used in your text, not in footnotes. That's why you also have the foot/endnote option.

    You want short footnotes in the style of author, date, pages? The. You have two options:
    1. Take the author date style and make it into a bite style and remove the brackets.
    2. Take the note style we have and remove anything you don't like.
  • nataliepicken
    Hi damnation

    thanks for replying - yes I want author-date citations in my text, but Zotero is placing them in footnotes automatically even when using the author-date version.
  • damnation
    edited 6 days ago
    Zotero will place the citation wherever your cursor is with numeric and author-date styles.
    If you created a footnote and then have the cursor in that footnote it will place the citation there.

    Try in a new and empty document and you will see.
  • nataliepicken
    Thanks but my curser was just at the end of my sentence, before the full stop - I inserted no footnote. When I use the Zotero ribbon to Add citation, and choose MHRA 4th ed author-date from the style options, it creates the footnote automatically. I have a video of this happening but the forum doesn't allow videos - I could potentially post it somewhere for you to view if that would be useful?

    I've tried deleting and downloading the style fresh and repeated attempts in new Word Documents all with the same result.

    Can I assume from your responses that you don't experience this issue when inserting Zotero citations in Word when selecting the style Modern Humanities Research Association 4th edition (author-date) ?

    Thanks again for your assistance

  • damnation
    Did you modify this style? If so, delete it and download it again.
    You also didn't say if you tried this in a fresh document.
  • nataliepicken
    I'm wondering if I edit the class field in the style entry line from class="note" to class="author-date" would that potentially remove the Footnote / Endnote radio buttons in the options where you select the style in Word and fix the issue?
  • nataliepicken
    Hi - yes I've tried deleting and downloading the style and repeated attempts in new word documents.

    I haven't tried editing the style - and like I say I'm working with a new downloaded version anyway.

    Is this happening for you when using the MHRA author date style?
  • damnation
    Ah, I see now looking at the code. Let me dig why this was done the way it was done when I get back to my computer. Nothing for you to do or try in the meantime.
  • damnation
    We only updated the MHRA to the 4th version some months ago and part of that also created the author-date style. And that had an error in it, so it still behaved like a note style.

    PR is made: https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/pull/7544
    Go to "Files changed" and then to View File >> Raw to get the corrected style.
  • nataliepicken
    Many thanks for providing the updated style and link to download it - it has fixed the problem for me.

    Will this update be made available in the Zotero style repository? I have a number of students who would benefit from being able to download it.
  • damnation
    As you see it's an "open" PR and will need to be reviewed and merged.
    (The CSL project is not part of Zotero (although close) and maintained by volunteers doing this in their free time)
  • damnation
    The new style is merged and should be available from the repository within an hour.
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