Unlink Zotero from local hard drive (MAC)
Hello,
My Zotero account is syncing my documents to my Mac hard drive, occupying more than 50% of my hard drive memory. When I delete the document from my finder, it is also deleted from my Zotero.
I have Zotero Unlimited and I also sync (successfully) all of my files on my online Zotero. I have also turned my sync settings to download files "as needed."
Thanks for the help!
My Zotero account is syncing my documents to my Mac hard drive, occupying more than 50% of my hard drive memory. When I delete the document from my finder, it is also deleted from my Zotero.
I have Zotero Unlimited and I also sync (successfully) all of my files on my online Zotero. I have also turned my sync settings to download files "as needed."
Thanks for the help!
If you delete items within Zotero, those deletions will be synced to your online library. If you delete files on disk, they won't. If you're referring to the former, you've misunderstood what this thread is about. If you think the latter is happening, you're misunderstanding what you're seeing. As adamsmith said in your other thread, if you provide exact steps to reproduce, ideally with some screenshots, we can try to explain what you're seeing.
@BobiS: You're also welcome to provide exact steps to reproduce plus screenshots, but there's no "solution" here, because Zotero doesn't do what you're saying it does.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/zotero.org/images/forums/u5603982/u54j9df6q564dc3r2dgo.png
As per the attached screenshot, Zotero, at the time of writing this comment, is occupying 85GB on my hard drive. The same files also appear on the Zotero cloud and at the same time on my hard drive. Please see the second screenshot, which validates that Zotero is not syncing properly and maxing out my local storage.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/zotero.org/images/forums/u5603982/w6o9kovyvn5x4p9ccgi4.png
Finally, please see attached also the total usage on my Zotero cloud (I have the unlimited plan).
https://s3.amazonaws.com/zotero.org/images/forums/u5603982/6vibemumxdfv8yc4m07h.png
Screenshot also of the sync settings to download files "as needed."
https://s3.amazonaws.com/zotero.org/images/forums/u5603982/302zds1kgra8tapt0ppw.png
But in the 2nd screenshot above, is it a folder of 'files on disk' or is it the 'items within Zotero' that are saved on the computer's hard drive?
I understand that it is the Zotero Data Directory, and that it's not in the Zotero interface/app, but I don't understand computer architecture, so I don't know if these (Directory & app) are the same, linked, or separate.
Sorry if my question is stupid, but I'm trying to understand the thread above.
I am also not an expert, and I am trying to figure this out, but I have been quite unsuccessful with this whole process.
Is the same thing happening to you as well?
My question is: Does the "unlimited subscription" support unlimited cloud storage (like Google Drive or Dropbox), where files could be accessed online without taking up local space? Or Zotero's syncing system is designed for backup and accessibility rather than acting as a purely cloud-based file system? If Zotero doesn't support this use case, is there an alternative to not save files locally?
Your Zotero is working correctly. Zotero is a local-first app. If you save something to the app, the data gets saved to your local database and the attachment file gets saved to your disk. If you're using syncing, Zotero will also upload the data and files to the cloud, but that has no effect on what's stored locally.
The setting in your screenshot is called "Download files" for a reason — it's talking about files that are already in the online library and not on your local computer. Zotero can either download all files during syncing, or it can download them when you try to open them if they don't already exist locally. But files you've saved on this computer are always going to be on this computer.
In a future version, we'll be offering a feature that will let you control how long to keep local copies of files that have been uploaded in order to limit local disk usage, but that doesn't exist yet.
For now, if all your files are all online, you can use right-click → Show File and delete individual files, or you can search for all PDFs in your data directory and delete them, and then Zotero will re-download them as needed. Or you can wait for the feature I describe above, which will do that automatically (and only do so after confirming that the files have uploaded).
And just to repeat one more time, deleting files on disk will absolutely not affect what's in Zotero or in the online library. (You do need to wait a few seconds for the file to be uploaded, though. If you delete it immediately before syncing finishes, there wouldn't be anything to upload.)
Indeed Google nows says "most users choose streaming as a way to work with their Google Drive files on their computer." ...
https://support.google.com/drive/answer/13401938?hl=en
*for example it comes up from time to time around here for linked file setups using cloud services, which commonly (?) seem to cause Zotero to fail to open linked PDFs when those services are set up in streaming mode.]
(This is unrelated to the initial claim that deleting a file outside of Zotero deletes it within Zotero. That's just not the case.)