Zotero 7 Beta- "Renaming File from parent metadata"

The function "Renaming File from parent metadata" does not work on the Zotero 7; Mac.
  • The behaviour has changed in Zotero 7 Beta:
    https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/comment/439553/#Comment_439553

    In Zotero 6, the function "Rename File from Parent Metadata" was changing both the Filename and the Attachment Title, which was confusing.
    The Attachment Title is different from the Filename:
    https://www.zotero.org/support/file_renaming#attachment_title_vs_filename

    - What you see displayed in the center pane of your library is the Attachment Title, which is consistent with the column where it is displayed, which is "Title".
    - What you see in the Item Pane on the right-hand side of your library when selecting an attachment file is:
    * First line: Attachment Title
    * Then below: "Filename:" Filename
    - You can verify that the function "Rename File from parent metadata" is changing the name of the file on your computer, by a right-click on the attachment file → "Show File".

    There will probably be more changes coming to help clarify the confusion:
    https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/comment/440046#Comment_440046
    https://github.com/zotero/zotero/issues/3245
    https://github.com/zotero/zotero/issues/2900
  • Thanks! Is there any way I can change the "Attachment Title"? I know it is only "cosmetic" but it would be great to have a consistent format for the Attachment Title.
  • edited May 14, 2024
    You can change it manually on a given attachment, but it's set by translators based on what's being saved.
  • edited June 14, 2024
    With the redesign of Zotero 7 beta, most of the justifications given here for the change no longer seem applicable. To wit:

    1. One no longer sees "Attachment Title" in the center pane of one's library -- one sees "Title." One logically expects to see the name of the attachment, just as one expects to see the actual title of the reference, not "Title."
    2. When selecting an attachment file, what one sees in the Item Pane on the right hand side of the library is "Attachment Info" and then, below the thumbnail, the filename."
    3. The other problem is that until now, even Zotero has displayed the actual name of *all* of my attachments. Just seeing "Full Text PDF" is confusing.

    Please revert to the previous behavior!
  • None of the relevant GUI elements changed between Z6 an Z7. The relevant column in the middle panel has always been "Title" and the item pane has always displayed both filename and attachment title.

    See the linked discussions -- an option to display the attachment filename (instead of the attachment title) in the middle panel is planned.
  • I think the issue is that the renaming is not consistent: https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/comment/464602/#Comment_464602

    @Telemachos: Once you manually rename the attachment title in the righthand pane, Zotero is no longer restricted to showing generic names such as "Full Text PDF".
  • I am also confused by this distinction. Wouldnt it help if zotero would encourage to solve the issue of meaningful attachment titles through tags? It is possible to tag attachments with something like "preprint" or "published version". The only difficulty is that zotero cannot show the relevant tags in the middle column directly against the different items. An ideal solution might be if there could be something like a prefix to tags such as "attachment type" which would be shown in the middle column. This way it would be possible to simply tag attachments with something like: "Attachment type: preprint".
    This would also solve the issue that many of the attachment titles are not really helpful, or that users might make typos when they add identifiers like "preprint" to attachment titles. With tags users could solve the latter problem easily solved through the "rename tag" functionality.
  • edited July 9, 2024
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  • It is possible to tag attachments with something like "preprint" or "published version".
    @migugg I use the attachment titles exactly the way you are describing — I use attachment titles as tags, ie. if I have both the preprint document and published version, I'll title the preprint "Preprint" and the published version "Full Text PDF". And I'll let both filenames be assigned automatically (usually they end up with identical file names, which doesn't bother me).
  • For the last couple days/last couple minor beta updates, I've noticed a change in the way Rename File from Parent Metadata works. In previous versions, it would automatically change both the filename and title, assuming the user had not manually entered any changes to the text of the attachment title. Now it seems that even if the user hasn't manually edited the attachment title, Rename File from Parent Metadata only changes the filename; it no longer makes changes to the attachment title under any circumstances, as far as I can tell.

    As described in this comment last year https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/comment/439553/#Comment_439553, I understood the old behavior as deliberate. Is the recent change a bug, or has its function been deliberately altered?

    For what its worth, I was a fan of the previous behavior. It felt like a intuitive, flexible, and reliable way of handling the different situations quickly.
  • Now it seems that even if the user hasn't manually edited the attachment title, Rename File from Parent Metadata only changes the filename; it no longer makes changes to the attachment title under any circumstances, as far as I can tell.
    That's correct.

    https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/comment/467717/#Comment_467717

    https://www.zotero.org/support/file_renaming#attachment_title_vs_filename
  • Can we revert back to how it used to work before? It's annoying that when I click on an attachment within Zotero, its name remains as " main" or "PDF".
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