No ISSN Option?
Can Zotero not find ISSN magazin articles?
If I want to add one, there is only the option to find ISBN (books and eBooks only), a DOI (document identification number), or a PMID (PubMed ID number).
I don´t want to write them all manual, as I use a lot articles.
Can I add this function somehow? Thanks in advance
If I want to add one, there is only the option to find ISBN (books and eBooks only), a DOI (document identification number), or a PMID (PubMed ID number).
I don´t want to write them all manual, as I use a lot articles.
Can I add this function somehow? Thanks in advance
It might help if you describe in detail how you hope to use the ISSN. There may be some way to accomplish what you want.
Whole journals (with multiple volumes) have ISSNs. You can enter in ISSN into a library catalog or several bibliographic databases to find information about the publisher, year range, earlier or later titles, etc.
In my own (not-Zotero) database I use ISSNs (print and electronic) as a way to have uniform journal names. When I want to know everything in (or about) a particular journal in my (not-Zotero) online database I can search on the ISSN.
ISSNs are not used in any citation style I know.
In the PubMed database one can enter a journal ISSN into the query box and receive a list of all articles in the database from that journal.
Ideally, I would like to ingest a complete journal or periodical, search by ISBN, DOI, or ISSN and have the relevant information get retrieved. This relevant info would be all the article titles in the complete journal and the keywords for those (though I don't know what is available as a search) but at the minimum the keywords to allow for searching for a specific topic would be great.
As an aside, maybe I am missing something here @adamsmith. Instead of telling us what can't be done, maybe explain why it can't be done. If the search we are asking for, using an ISSN will not provide the titles in the journal, then please state that. Simply saying X will not return Y is fairly useless to those who don't function in the Zotero code or use the ISBN, DOI, or ISSN search engines in the manner that Zotero does.
@spark706 your use case is a book, not a journal. Retrieving all chapters from a book has been requested a number of times in the past, and my guess is that it will probably be developed in a not-too-distant future.
Retrieving a whole journal (or a book series)? This means hundreds, thousands, perhaps millions of records. First of all, I don't see how all of them can be relevant. Furthermore, if the metadata is retrieved by crawling the publisher's web site (even worse if all PDFs are downloaded in the process), this will probably be detected as abuse: a typical consequence would be a blocking of your IP address from further access, sometimes blocking your whole organization (depending on the existing licensing contracts). So I really don't see this happening at all.
Obviously databases such as Pubmed and many others allow that kind of search, and that's because they already contain the metadata for all articles, obtained by specific arrangements with many publishers. If you need to search by ISSN, use one of these databases, select the articles that are actually useful and retrieve those. Collecting the whole content to search offline within your own local database isn't really what Zotero is about, in my opinion.
How would you two, or any other Zotero knowledgeable people, suggest that I get a list of those nine papers so that I can search for them using the search bar at the top of the Zotero screen?
@adamsmith, you have now stated twice you don't understand the use case I am presenting, so hopefully this last question will make clear what I want. I simply want to have access to either a listing of the nine titles inside the journal OR access to the keywords.
So, as stated at the end of my last posting, How do I gain insight from the journal which has three papers I am interested in using for reference in a project? How would the programmers of Zotero and @adamsmith, etc. suggest that I access that information given that your argument is the ISSN number is useless?
I'd recommend reading through Adding Items to Zotero if you're not clear on this.
Before people tell me how to do the thing I already know to do and have done with the other 12K papers from my researches, let's please try to answer the question for the use case I asked....please????
Again, without telling me to download an individual paper from the whole, how do I access the parts I want from the whole?
In the same way there there is not Magazine periodical type, only a Magazine Article, how do people who have subscriptions to a magazine, delivered in PDF format, store and access the multiple articles from the magazine????
So, with all sincerity, is there any way to access a list of all the articles in a single PDF file of a journal (or a Magazine even) to access them from within Zotero?
If not, then there is a use case that may be worth evaluating.
Or, just simply let those asking for the ability to access a list of all the articles in a Journal (or Magazine for that matter) that Zotero chooses not to worry about this particular case.
As already written, the example you gave is a book (an available reference type, so please be careful about the terminology), not a journal. Furthermore, supporting your use case of easily importing chapters from a book you already have in your Library will probably happen in the future for favorable cases such as the one you have shown. I imagine it could use the ISBN, or DOI's - not the ISSN of a book series. But regardless of this hypothesis, at this point the only available options are listed in the "Adding Items to Zotero" page. You can add the chapters from the book page and mark them as related to the book record https://www.zotero.org/support/related . I agree that this involves more manual steps than it should, and I am confident that this can be improved.
Your new Magazine use case in interesting, indeed. But here, one difficult problem that I see is that unlike in academic journals and books, it is often difficult to find a detailed listing of the content, and when a listing indeed exists the metadata is quite poor. Furthermore, the kind of infrastructure available for academic publications (databases such as Pubmed, the Web of Science, Crossref... even search engines like Google Scholar) doesn't exist for magazines as far as I know. I still do not think the ISSN will help much (but I could be wrong). Now I must admit that this is a very general statement - if you can give a specific example (as you did with the book "Design and Analysis of Distributed Energy Management Systems: Integration of EMS, EV, and ICT"), perhaps we can offer a more practical solution?
I do not yet understand what you are trying to accomplish that cannot already be had with existing features of Zotero.
Do you want to search your Zotero library by ISSN?
Do you want to use Zotero as a front-end to search online databases by ISSN?*
Do you want to use an ISSN as a marker of article relatedness in a grouping?
Try thinking of the ISSN as simply a synonym for a periodical (serial) publication - an 8-digit identifier. ISSNs are particularly useful to disambiguate publications with similar titles. Different ISSNs are also used when published in more than one media type (print, electronic, fiche). [edit: actually, 7 digits--the 8th is a check-digit]
You have acknowledged that the example(s) you have given don't quite illustrate what you desire. Please step back, take a day or two, and restructure your description of your use case. It may be that what you want from a tool is completely outside the scope of Zotero as a research and citation tool. It may be that you can get most of your desire with an existing but different approach.
As to @aborel 's comment concerning magazines. Although (to me) it is essentially useless for all except for high school debate teams; an index to articles from selected popular magazines exists (and has for more than a century). The Reader's Guide to Periodical Literature "delivers comprehensive indexing of 300 of the most popular and important periodicals published in the United States and Canada". [ https://www.hwwilsoninprint.com/periodicals.php ]
Until relatively recently this was a quarterly printed index but is now also a part of some EBSCO subscriptions. The print version has an ISSN. Would one be expected to use that index's ISSN to encompass the collected contents of all of the magazines in the index? That would result in millions of individual records.
*You can already search some online databases by ISSN and get the same results as when searching by journal title or abbreviation. For example, searching PubMed with "0028-4793" will find more than 84 thousand items; 0036-8075 will identify more than 184,000 items. Finding those in a database is one thing. I happen to believe that except as a curiosity it is almost useless unless you include additional limiting terms. Trying to download all of the records found from such a massive return will almost surely (as @adamsmith said) have serious negative consequences for you.
Are you sure you wanted to ping me at the beginning of this last post? I am not the one who asks for support/new features :-)
(although the pointer to the Reader's Guide to Periodical Literature is indeed interesting to me)
So now that (I think) I know what you're after, I can give you clear answers: That's not a common use case (I don't think I've actually seen this requested before) and there's nothing easy and there likely won't be in the future. Specifically, there are two separate scenarios:
1) As in the scenario above, the PDF and the individual items within it have DOIs. For that case, it would be technically feasible to let you import the individual items, but you can also just follow the DOI to the webpage of the book and then use the web translator/folder icon to import the chapters you're interested in. That's maybe one click more than going through add by identifier, so the added value of adding it there is small and it would make the 'add by identifier' process more messy by adding a selection dialog.
2) In other scenarios, where the individual items do not have DOIs -- such as, I imagine, many e-mags delivered as PDFs -- this would be eminently useful, but it's technically impossible since there is no viable place where the item (i.e. chapter or article) information gets recorded that Zotero could query.
I hope that clarifies this.