Notes, Attachments Tabs Disappear in 2.0b7
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Very early versions of Zotero displayed search results independent of hierarchy, so matching child notes displayed as top-level items. This was simultaneously alarming and, for some use cases, helpful. One way to restore such functionality in a more explicit, user-controlled manner, as well as to provide a view like what Ben describes, would be a control (plus associated shortcut keys) to filter the type of items (item/note/attachment) that displayed in the middle pane. Turning off items and attachments would cause all notes in the library/collection/search to be displayed without hierarchy. Turning off just attachments would provide the view that Ben describes (but double-clicking on an item would still open the best-available attachment).
Note are may be just another type of attachment from the point of view of technical implementation.
But they are very different in that they represent the user produced accompanying content, as opposed to (most) snapshots and PDFs. From that point of view they could be rather related to tags. Which are actually also child items in a sense, but not displayed in the expanded view.
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BTW, typing "note" into the quick search displays all notes in the expanded view (it also of cause display every other item containing the pretty common word "note").
"But then realized there are also people who attach a lot of tags/keywords to references."
This is why I suggested to display tags separated by commas or semicolons and not by breaks, to have them displayed one after another, not below each other. This would save scarce screen space. In my experience, tags are important for input, not for viewing. Once I wrote down the tags, I do not need to see them again.
[He says naively, knowing nothing at all about how easy or difficult it would be to get them to behave in a resizing pane.]
Tags and related items seem quite cognate concepts to me, and if we need to drop a tab for space amalgamating them seems to make sense. They're both about the item's place in a network of ideas. Links to related could be put beneath a tag cloud in the right pane.
http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/4553/#Comment_19655
I suppose in theory you could size the tags on the current item according to the number of items in the current collection or sub-collection it belongs to, but it probably doesn't make much sense. I was just trying to think of ways to reduce the amount of space numerous tags could take up in the pane, to allow the possibility of combining 'tags' and 'related'. Migugg's suggestion of just separating them with commas is much simpler.
My apologies if this has already been discussed or is a known issue.
Richard
Firefox 3.5, OSX 10.6.1, Zotero 2.0b7.1
Just an idea: Perhaps "Notes" should be treated as "References"...? But I think such discussions—to treat references and notes similarly, or just to give notes an "Info" tag, or even to allow multiple field notes for one reference, for more precise notetaking (as in the current versions of Sente for OS X)—are digressions from this thread...:) Sorry about that.
In any case, I'm all for Notes getting tabs (Info, Tags, Related) like References do. Why not?
Redunancy may not be logical for a computer, but for humans redundancy is useful - it is required for learning. My vote, please put the tabs back so my poor non-computer brain can accomplish its tasks more easily.
Maybe there is another way of doing this?
As for redundancy - redundancy in computer programs has nothing to do with redundancy in learning - they refer to entirely different issues. I do believe that some degree of redundancy in computer programs (i.e. several ways of doing the same thing) is a good idea - and Zotero does provide this (cf. for example all the different ways to get a pdf into Zotero). But there is also a trade-off in keeping all the different ways in which the same thing can be done working in a program and having a smoothly running, non-cluttered software and interface. So I think the idea that redundancy is something that should be kept within limits (especially where it takes up lot of resources - space in this case) is very reasonable.
We'll be restoring the Notes tab to allow for scanning through notes (though in some cases, such as pswak's above, I would agree with adamsmith that expanding all items with + is more useful). We will not be restoring the Attachments tab, for the reasons I mentioned above. Thanks to everyone for the feedback.
The Notes tab will not be returning for 2.0b7.2, which will be released later today, but it will return soon.
Keep the good work going!
Greetings!
(in my case actually, i also found the attachement tab usefull, to see at a glance which and what kind of items were attached. but as nobody else seems to care about that, you should probably keep it the way it is now)
Cheers!
The "Add" button now opens a new note in the inline editor rather than a separate window (for consistency with the toolbar button and context-menu option). If you'd like a new window, Shift-click the button.