Zotero 6: + and - force a bulleted list in note editor

This discussion was created from comments split from: Announcing Zotero 6 and Zotero for iOS.
  • I hate this update... all of my notes start with +, - or =. Well now both + and - force a bullet list which is never what I want. There doesn't seem to be any way around this so now I have to go through every single one of my notes for my 350 studies and edit them all. Fuck!
  • edited March 18, 2022
    https://www.zotero.org/support/forum_guidelines#etiquette

    The new note editor supports Markdown syntax for creating lists. If you don't want that, you can press Cmd/Ctrl-Z after the auto-conversion to revert to the original character.

    We could consider making it possible to disable Markdown syntax conversions, but you're the first to object to this in a year of beta testing.
  • The new notes "feature" forces notes that start with a '+ ' and '- ' to automatically become bullet lists. Every single one of my notes in the 350 studies I have starts with either '+ ', '- ' or '= ' so I would have to edit every single note I have somehow (not sure how because I don't like any other format... '+ ' and '- ' have to be first).

    I want to go back to the prior version. Thankfully I made a backup of my db before upgrading. How do I re-download an old version?
  • edited March 18, 2022
    I already moved your post here and responded to you here. Please stop posting to the other thread.

    I explain above how you can continue using "+" or "-" if you want to.

    But are you saying that your existing notes that began with "+" or "-" now start with bulleted lists? That's not intentional, and we can help you undo that if that's the case.

    You can install an older version by modifying the download URL, but reinstalling an older version is not the solution here — old versions aren't supported and will stop syncing in the future.
  • I put instructions on twitter here https://twitter.com/adam42smith/status/1504824167774015490 (3 tweets total) but as noted there, reverting to Z5 isn't a long-term solution.
    Support will end and the software will eventually become insecure and likely stop working, so you'll have to find a way to make this work with the new note editor or switch to a different software entirely.
  • edited March 18, 2022
    It did not change the display of the old notes. Please do explain how to change that behaviour.
  • I'm sorry I posted multiple times. I didn't mean to. I thought the first one didn't go through. I also started a thread because I wasn't sure you would reply to this directly.

    << We could consider making it possible to disable Markdown syntax conversions, but you're the first to object to this in a year of beta testing. >>

    I wasn't a beta tester.
  • edited March 18, 2022
    It did not change the display of the old notes.
    Not sure I understand. Are you saying that your old notes are still fine, and the issue is just that this is happening in new notes?

    Above you made it sound like you had to fix all your old notes. Did you just mean that to use a consistent system you'd have to edit the old notes if you couldn't keep using "+" and "-"?
    Please do explain how to change that behaviour.
    I explain above how to undo the "+" and "-" auto-conversion as you type. And as I say, we could consider turning this off, though Markdown auto-conversion makes it very easy to use rich-text formatting in notes, and using undo is simple when you want to use "+" or "-" explicitly.
    I wasn't a beta tester.
    I understand — but thousands people were, so I'm just explaining that this is particular to your note-taking system.
  • I would love for you to provide an option to disable Markdown. CTRL-Z everytime is not desired. I have zero clue what other "features" markdown brings. I do not wish to use it. Plain text is fine for me.
  • To be clear, there are two problems: one with regards to bulleted/numbered lists in existing notes and one with regards to creating bulleted/numbered lists in new notes.

    Existing Notes: All bullets now look the same. Where once different levels had different symbols, now they all have the same black dot and there is no way to repair it that I can find. All outlines (I/A/1/a) have lost their indents, and again, there doesn't seem to be anyway to repair it

    New notes: There is no way to create different levels in lists whether bulleted or number. No indenting, no format changes for each different level.

    While you note that the new version was in beta testing for a year, this is the first I have heard of it. There were no emails to that effect, no messages, no nothing. I guess if I spent time on the website, I might have heard something about it, but, so long as everything was working fine, I had no reason to go to the website.


  • @MaryBV
    Existing Notes: All bullets now look the same. Where once different levels had different symbols, now they all have the same black dot and there is no way to repair it that I can find. All outlines (I/A/1/a) have lost their indents, and again, there doesn't seem to be anyway to repair it
    We will fix the bullet style. But what do you mean about "outlines lost their indents"? Could you make a screenshot?
    New notes: There is no way to create different levels in lists whether bulleted or number. No indenting, no format changes for each different level.
    Isn't Tab/Shift-Tab not sufficient to create different levels in a list?
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