Upgrade StorageIndividual volume date vs. dates of the full run of volumes
Hi, is there currently a solution for recording and citing both the date of an individual volume and the dates of the full run of volumes in a multi-volume publication (for a book section entry)?
The reason for asking this is that a full note style (e.g. CMS full note or MHRA) logically requires the dates of the full run of volumes, since the number of volumes is mentioned directly before the place and date of publication, whereas for an author-date style it makes better sense to refer to the individual volume's date rather than a range. Not being able to distinguish between the range and the single date for volumes means manual adjustments when switching between styles, so it would seem like a worthwhile functionality to have, but of course I don't know about the difficulties involved. Relegating the date range to Extra (with the "issued" prefix) doesn't appear to free up the Date field for a variable that could have a different use.
To give an example:
(1) going with individual volume date:
Chicago Manual of Style 17th edition (author-date)
Varlık, Mustafa Çetin. 1992. ‘Anadolu Beylikleri’. İn Doğuştan Günümüze Büyük İslâm Tarihi, edited by Hakkı Dursun Yıldız, 8:483–596. İstanbul: Çağ. [works perfectly]
Chicago Manual of Style 17th edition (full note)
Mustafa Çetin Varlık, ‘Anadolu Beylikleri’, in Doğuştan Günümüze Büyük İslâm Tarihi, ed. Hakkı Dursun Yıldız, vol. 8, 14 vols (İstanbul: Çağ, 1992), 483–596. [not great as it leads us to think that all 14 volumes were published in a single year]
2) going with a date range for the full run of volumes:
Chicago Manual of Style 17th edition (author-date)
Varlık, Mustafa Çetin. 1988–1993. ‘Anadolu Beylikleri’. İn Doğuştan Günümüze Büyük İslâm Tarihi, edited by Hakkı Dursun Yıldız, 8:483–596. İstanbul: Çağ. [not great again as there is a mismatch between the eighth volume and the date range]
Chicago Manual of Style 17th edition (full note)
Mustafa Çetin Varlık, ‘Anadolu Beylikleri’, in Doğuştan Günümüze Büyük İslâm Tarihi, ed. Hakkı Dursun Yıldız, vol. 8, 14 vols (İstanbul: Çağ, 1988–1993), 483–596. [works fine]
I don't really come across this type of citation very often, but it does lead to a glitch of sorts, unless I am missing something. Will appreciate any advice (workarounds?) and equally being pointed to a previous relevant discussion if there was one.
PS. Incidentally, when the language of the bibliographic entry is defined as Turkish, the capitalised "In" in the CMS author-date example ends up spelled with a Turkish dotted capital "i", a letter that does not exist in English! :))
The reason for asking this is that a full note style (e.g. CMS full note or MHRA) logically requires the dates of the full run of volumes, since the number of volumes is mentioned directly before the place and date of publication, whereas for an author-date style it makes better sense to refer to the individual volume's date rather than a range. Not being able to distinguish between the range and the single date for volumes means manual adjustments when switching between styles, so it would seem like a worthwhile functionality to have, but of course I don't know about the difficulties involved. Relegating the date range to Extra (with the "issued" prefix) doesn't appear to free up the Date field for a variable that could have a different use.
To give an example:
(1) going with individual volume date:
Chicago Manual of Style 17th edition (author-date)
Varlık, Mustafa Çetin. 1992. ‘Anadolu Beylikleri’. İn Doğuştan Günümüze Büyük İslâm Tarihi, edited by Hakkı Dursun Yıldız, 8:483–596. İstanbul: Çağ. [works perfectly]
Chicago Manual of Style 17th edition (full note)
Mustafa Çetin Varlık, ‘Anadolu Beylikleri’, in Doğuştan Günümüze Büyük İslâm Tarihi, ed. Hakkı Dursun Yıldız, vol. 8, 14 vols (İstanbul: Çağ, 1992), 483–596. [not great as it leads us to think that all 14 volumes were published in a single year]
2) going with a date range for the full run of volumes:
Chicago Manual of Style 17th edition (author-date)
Varlık, Mustafa Çetin. 1988–1993. ‘Anadolu Beylikleri’. İn Doğuştan Günümüze Büyük İslâm Tarihi, edited by Hakkı Dursun Yıldız, 8:483–596. İstanbul: Çağ. [not great again as there is a mismatch between the eighth volume and the date range]
Chicago Manual of Style 17th edition (full note)
Mustafa Çetin Varlık, ‘Anadolu Beylikleri’, in Doğuştan Günümüze Büyük İslâm Tarihi, ed. Hakkı Dursun Yıldız, vol. 8, 14 vols (İstanbul: Çağ, 1988–1993), 483–596. [works fine]
I don't really come across this type of citation very often, but it does lead to a glitch of sorts, unless I am missing something. Will appreciate any advice (workarounds?) and equally being pointed to a previous relevant discussion if there was one.
PS. Incidentally, when the language of the bibliographic entry is defined as Turkish, the capitalised "In" in the CMS author-date example ends up spelled with a Turkish dotted capital "i", a letter that does not exist in English! :))
One thing that we likely will do better in the future is titles of volumes within multivolume books like the 1883-1884 in the Henry James example in 118.
The other question is if our inclusion of the total number of volumes for citations to individual volumes is actually correct Chicago style. I think there's a good case to be made that it should be omitted.